OEM 1TB SATA III 3D NAND SSD Drive Discussions | Drop

Aug 15, 2018

FuzzThis is the exact drive as the HP Pro listed in the description. Samsung 1TB is $219.99 market price. I think $40 off that is pretty hot for an SSD.

Aug 15, 2018

Tex-ArozziNot the same warranty, no support from HP, so it's NOT the same drive😕

Aug 15, 2018

ZettoJust confirmed the same 3 year warranty on this product with the HP factory. It has been updated on the drop page.

Aug 15, 2018

Zetto3 year warranty confirmed with the HP factory. It has been added to the drop page. For sure its exactly the same product.

Fuzz

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Aug 15, 2018

Tex-ArozziThe Samsung 860 EVO 1TB is $199 with a 5 year warranty, and is a known quantity.
https://smile.amazon.com/Samsung-Inch-Internal-MZ-76E1T0B-AM/dp/B078DPCY3T/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1534361591&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+1tb+ssd

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Aug 15, 2018

FuzzThis HP drive is $179.99 with a 3 year warranty with known quality and faster read & write speeds than the Samsung.

Aug 16, 2018

Fuzz Agreed, but y'know for how the vast majority of people use their computers, all the benchmark tests and such don't amount to a whole lot. What matters more (to me, at home and in my work) is reliability, and thus far most of what I've read about various HP offerings is on par with old OCZ drives...which is to say, pretty disappointing, or a high chance of that. Odd that HP (or maybe it's just Massdrop-added-copy) would advertise these as great for notebooks...for very light use and while the drive is still pretty empty, they are average but with any workload and as storage capacity diminishes, these are very power hungry. We got a deal on some and put them in 14 laptops, about 8 months later we pulled them for 850 Evos and put the HP drives in secretarial workstations where they were better suited (and then three of those have died, so far). At any rate, even the "slowest" SSDs are still a huge improvement over any HDD, and that holds true for even the early cruddy ones from ca. 2012. I think it's hard for Massdrop to do well in this category considering the vast market and volatile pricing. Maybe Massdrop could offer some more value to us all by putting together some good clone software/cabling packages...like Acronis or Mini-Tool for a great price, maybe a good quality dock, etc.

Aug 16, 2018

StepbystepNot to mention, if this drive fails, I seriously doubt HP will honor any warranty claims as this drive is unbranded and doesn't even have a serial number printed anywhere on it. OEM devices are not supposed to be sold by themselves, they are sold to complete computer manufacturers who will then offer warranty on the complete system. This one, sold alone, doesn't appear to have any valid warranty with the manufacturer (unless HP does provide full documentation including warranty statement with each drive)

Aug 16, 2018

AnzialKinda have to trust Massdrop on that one, or reach out to HP for confirmation. As many errors and omissions as Massdrop tends to make with information, they do always seem to honor a warranty or fix a situation when needed. I guess if it were me I'd save the info presented here on the description and comments. MD is on the hook legally if the manufacturer were to deny support.

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Aug 16, 2018

StepbystepOk. So you could not contact HP to validate the warranty as HP is not the manufacturer. HP is not making their own SSD drives. This product is 100% the same as the HP Pro SSD. It is warrantied directly with the factory producing this product.

Aug 16, 2018

Tex-ArozziThen stop calling it an HP drive since legally it is not one.

Aug 16, 2018

Tex-ArozziSo...how does a Massdrop customer go about an RMA then? Ship it to China? Not often that factories actually deal with end users for warranty and returns, but what a pain when they do (in my experience). With the relatively high reported failure rate on these drives (Pro and standard both), this might be important to someone.

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Aug 16, 2018

StepbystepI agree that MD does make tons of mistakes and omissions on various drops but in my experience, their track record for fixing the problems with products past 30 days after delivery is less than stellar, to put it mildly. As far as this drop goes, the price is too high in addition to the risk of no warranty as there are plenty of better deals on brand-name SSDs with proper warranty.

Aug 16, 2018

AnzialAnzial,
If you will read back through my responses I never said this was an HP drive. I said it was built with the exact same components in the exact same factory where the HP drives are produced with the same warranty as the HP drives.
Obviously this is not an HP drive but for less reason than you are making out. What makes this drive an OEM drive VS HP Branded is the spray paint on the front and the sticker on the back. That is all.
As I have stated before HP themselves do not own the factory, they are not the manufacturer of their own drives. Massdrop is known for establishing relationships direct with the OEM factories of branded products and sourcing them direct to provide a savings to the community.
That is all I am trying to do here is bring the best value to the community. I think that for this caliber SSD drive with a 3 year warranty for $179.99 is a pretty good deal in the current market. Are there cheaper options available? For sure there is. Do they have the same performance or better than this drive for $179.99? I am not seeing it.
On a side note Anzial, I want you to know that I appreciate your comments in the discussion as it always brings a different point of view to the conversations. Thank you.
Cheers.

Aug 17, 2018

Tex-ArozziSo how does one go about RMA/warranty if needed?

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Aug 17, 2018

StepbystepYou should contact Massdrop support at https://www.massdrop.com/support and you will be taken care of.

dead_pixel_design

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Aug 17, 2018

AnzialHP doesn't make their own drives, they get them made and branded HP by a third party, this hard drive is made on the same line with the parts spec'd to be used for the HP drives, they are pulled off the line before the HP branding is applied. These are the exact same as the HP drives without screen prints or stickers. No one has actually said they were HP drives, all that has been said is these are exactly the same as the HP drives.

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Aug 17, 2018

dead_pixel_designLol, MD shilling eh? I hope you getting paid well enough

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Aug 17, 2018

Tex-ArozziDo your research - Mx500 performs a lot better than HP, jeez, you are getting desperate🙄

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Aug 17, 2018

Tex-Arozzi You are trying to pass a mid-range product at best as the high-end. You are wrong. First, any SATA SSD is limited by SATA3. As result, the difference between high-end and low end SSDs with SATA interface are miniscule and unnoticeable in real life usage. Second, and case in point, Crucial’s MX500, while being a marketed as a budget SSD, has superior specs and performance to this drive. Both HP S700 pro and MX500 have the same controller, Silicon Motion SM2258 but the difference between the two is in the NAND used. They both use Micron 3D TLC, but HP is only 32layer, and MX500 is 64layer which translates into superior performance. Here’s a user comparison between the two: http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/HP-S700-Pro-1TB-vs-Crucial-MX500-1TB/m387205vsm406099
There’s only ONE metric where HP is better – and that is sequential read which is rarely used in real world, unless all you do is read huge files off the SSD, and even then it’s only 6% difference. For most people, unnoticeable, but then for those who do operate with huge files, write speed is more important and MX500 has S700 pro beat in that department by a healthy 29%.
So you see, your drive is nothing special, so don’t try to sell for $180 which is pretty much the highest sale price for 1tb ssds these days, there are tons of sales this summer which have that for much cheaper and with longer warranties and actual big brand names behind them as opposed to just one little MassDrop which may not last the next 3 years.
Now for a little bit of fun with your contradictions

Aug 17, 2018

dead_pixel_designThe difference is the brand name, and it's a lot in the modern world. HP stands behind HP-branded products, which this one is not, and that makes a whole of lot of difference. I know HP will last 3 years, will MD?

BartoloColon40

Aug 17, 2018

Anzialthat was beautiful tbh

cyberkeeper1

Aug 17, 2018

AnzialThis guy keeps saying it’s not an HP drive but then again says it is. I smell a rat... this buying manager is full of it.

Aug 17, 2018

cyberkeeper1Not cool dude. I did not try to misrepresent this in anyway. These are OEM drives made in the same factory as the HP drives. They are built to the exact standards of the HP drives.

dead_pixel_design

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Aug 17, 2018

AnzialThe difference is also price, which is also a lot in the modern world. The entire point of this whole buy is that the only difference is that it isn't branded. You are getting an HP drive without the HP sticker on it, from HP's source, to HP's specs, with HP's QA/QC.
And Massdrop has already been around longer than 3 years, I don't know where you were going with that.

Aug 18, 2018

dead_pixel_designBullshit. HP ssd is the same junk ssd just like any other junk ssd made from exactly same parts 😒 at least others do not try to make themselves like God like you do with this drive. I hope you get fired from MD shilling after this fiasco of a drop 😆

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