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ameaney
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Jan 24, 2018
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nicobFrom Amazon:
Completely waterproof of just water resistant? Answer: Not submersible. I kayaked for three days on the Devil's River in TX and nothing got wet, but they are definitely not waterproof. By Amazon Customer on November 29, 2016
Completely waterproof of just water resistant? Answer: Not submersible. I kayaked for three days on the Devil's River in TX and nothing got wet, but they are definitely not waterproof. By Amazon Customer on November 29, 2016
DannyMilks
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Jan 24, 2018
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ameaneyThanks for trying to help answer with the question of water proof vs water resistance. I take issue with the answer copied from Amazon, however. The reviewer contradicts themselves by stating the dry bags didn't leak from usage, yet they are not waterproof. Which is it?
The truth is that the construction of these bags is waterproof. However, it is ultimately up to the user to correctly roll the top down to make it waterproof. So, many brands, including Advanced Elements, take the conservative route and call these water resistant to account for that used error. They can't control how you use these. It is not like a camera case that snaps into place and locks - it is either closed it it isn't. With the dry sacks, you could mess up it and still close the bag yet not sufficiently well enough to keep out all precipitation.
So for all practical purposes, these are waterproof. I've used them rafting, backpacking and traveling without a single leak. I also use dry bags from Granite Gear and Sea to Summit. Hope this helps!
The truth is that the construction of these bags is waterproof. However, it is ultimately up to the user to correctly roll the top down to make it waterproof. So, many brands, including Advanced Elements, take the conservative route and call these water resistant to account for that used error. They can't control how you use these. It is not like a camera case that snaps into place and locks - it is either closed it it isn't. With the dry sacks, you could mess up it and still close the bag yet not sufficiently well enough to keep out all precipitation.
So for all practical purposes, these are waterproof. I've used them rafting, backpacking and traveling without a single leak. I also use dry bags from Granite Gear and Sea to Summit. Hope this helps!
ameaney
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Jan 24, 2018
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DannyMilksThanks Danny for the quick reply. I think the amazon reviewer was referring to (somewhat clumsily) the difference between waterproof and submersible.
Water proof to me is a bag (or garment for that matter) that will allow the contents to remain dry in sustained rain or exposure to water such as you might get if your bag gets splashed while you are canoeing/kayaking.
Most "dry-bags' are waterproof. Very few are actually submersible and I think a lot of people disregard this difference at their peril. It isn't a big deal for overland hiking but if you dump your boat it does have rather more serious consequences.
So let me put the question to you directly - are these bags submersible? If I roll the top correctly and push them under water and hold them there will the contents remain dry?
So let me put the question to you directly - are these bags submersible? If I roll the top correctly and push them under water and hold them there will the contents remain dry?
crimsontongue
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Jan 25, 2018
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ameaneyI'm guessing for a short time, measured in minutes at least. It would depend on how full it's packed, how tightly it's rolled, is it bobbing gently in a lake or crashing through rapids.
In summary: don't take them scuba diving.
In summary: don't take them scuba diving.
ameaney
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Jan 26, 2018
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crimsontongueI think that's the key most "dry bags" if you have a certain amount of air in there should float and therefore should be ok.
But then I've never actually dumped so I don't have a real world example.
EZ_living
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May 2, 2018
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nicobI've never tried, but I would never fully submerge them. Maybe if you closed it very very carefully and there were no scratches (like a lot of light dry bags, they puncture easily) that would work.
But I would rate them as trustworthy for pouring rain or splashes or even floating in water.
But I would rate them as trustworthy for pouring rain or splashes or even floating in water.
BarryBogave
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Jul 18, 2018
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ameaneyThese bags are definitely not submersible and barely qualify as 'waterproof'. The most accurate description should be 'splash-proof'.
Yes, they will keep your stuff dry for a few minutes if it starts raining for example, but the material itself as well as the seams will eventually give in to the water and your stuff will get wet. The term 'Dry Bag' is very misleading.
Yes, they will keep your stuff dry for a few minutes if it starts raining for example, but the material itself as well as the seams will eventually give in to the water and your stuff will get wet. The term 'Dry Bag' is very misleading.
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