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hurrdurr
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May 24, 2018
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The amount of crap being spouted about this dap is pretty astonishing...
If you are bashing it without having tried it, that's pretty pathetic.
May 24, 2018
SciHobo
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May 24, 2018
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I'm certainly bashing the specs for the price, it's very hard not to when the specs don't even compete well on paper against DAPs like the hiby r6 which is 1/3rd the price. Granted, this is 3 years old (who buys a DAP that old anyway?)
It could sound absolutely amazing (again, specs lead me to believe it is way overpriced), but come on, there is no reasonable justification for the price given its specs and materials, and if there is, they certainly aren't telling you what that may be.
It is perfectly reasonable to skip this one based on specs alone since it's features are WAY outside of range with what's out there for the price.
I was going to spend 500-1000 on DAP (wound up with hiby r6) and ruled out the ak4490 DAC at that price point (partly since my cayin n3 already had it). I can't imagine spending 2-4x that much to get something with this DAC. There are simply better options.
This is one that unless you heard absolutely astonishing things about from people you trust, that you rule out without even demoing.
May 24, 2018
hurrdurr
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May 24, 2018
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I will agree that the price is a bit nuts, but that has been true for A&K stuff for years. The competition from folks like Hiby & The Bit (Opus players) probably explains why they are starting to sell cheaper new models (e.g. the A&Norma) and slashing the prices of their older models.
May 24, 2018
SciHobo
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May 24, 2018
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This is why chi-fi is ultimately a good thing. No way should these specs be considered ok for 2,000 dollars.
If this DAP was 1000-1200 dollars, you still would need to make a pretty compelling argument of what was done with the hardware/software that would entice people to give it a whirl. Otherwise this really is like bragging about a v6 with 275 hp in a Ferrari.... I think the "lolwhut?" Response is very justified without an accompanying good explanation from AK justifying the specs and price. What it looks like we really get are vague "just trust us and take our word for it" type reviews.
May 24, 2018
hurrdurr
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May 24, 2018
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The problem with Chi-Fi is that a lot of their hardware specs look good on paper, but the software and the implementation of the hardware would often leave a lot to be desired. They do seem to be getting better and better over the years though.
A&K has always been pricing their products at a premium (a good comparison might be mechanical watches, e.g., a Rolex versus a regular Seiko or Citizen...they all tell time to +/- a couple seconds a day). Some folks who have money to blow will pay for that premium.
Having tried the A&K players in the past I will say that they sound great and the build quality is top notch.
May 24, 2018
Kyo9999
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May 24, 2018
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There is not only the specifications, there is also the quality of the amplification, its signature etc! and you will never know it without trying! So stop saying shit!
May 24, 2018
SciHobo
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May 25, 2018
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If AK wants to sell this, they have to do a better job of explaining why it's special. The specs versus the price do not match at all. Yes, timbre, tuning and quality are important, obviously.
But unless you believe in full on audio voodoo, the specs here tell a pretty bad story about the value of this DAP. If you have 2 Grand to drop on a DAP, I doubt this would be at the top of the list, and if your income or net worth is so high that 2k doesn't matter, just upgrade to a better TOTL DAP that actually has the specs to justify the pricetag.
May 25, 2018
Billhatesusername
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May 25, 2018
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The same thought occurred to me.
May 25, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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May 25, 2018
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This also doubles as a music server as well. So, this is more than just a DAP, " the AK380 can handle any NAS or DLNA-connected devices, and has a separate Android/iOS app ". There are also a ton of other features but that's the big one. Really, that's a big part of what you're paying for on top of everything else.
May 25, 2018
SciHobo
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May 25, 2018
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That's cool. How is that different from any device that runs Android and has WiFi and decent capabilities?
I guess I don't get the distinction since I can access things of my hiby r6 through the upnp and dlna services, other than lacking the obvious iOS support.
May 25, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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May 25, 2018
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Here's a better write-up of what I could spew here: https://www.themasterswitch.com/review-astell-kern-ak380. If the app is similar to my AVR receiver, you can cast and beam audio to/from all sorts of devices and even have multiroom/zone 2 setups. At least, that's what I was gathering. Basically, it does all that and more while being a pocket sized device which is pretty impressive and a leading DAP. There's also a parametric EQ so I'm sure that plays into the cost as well.
May 25, 2018
Scarce97
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May 28, 2018
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I have tried it.
Its shit for $2000.
Thanks.
May 28, 2018
hurrdurr
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May 28, 2018
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Cool beans yo.
May 28, 2018
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