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Just got mine, no rattle! For those who might wonder (I know I did), I can not tell the difference between these and my K712 Pro. I plan to wear a blind fold this weekend and have someone swap them for me, back and forth, but I seriously doubt I will be able to tell one from the other. Based on the 702/65thAE, which still sell for around $450?!?! If there is a difference between these and the K712, my ears cannot hear it. Which one to keep?!? $199 makes these one of the best deals in headphones EVER.