Little follow up... bout 450miles on the same pair pictures earlier (hopped around, tried a another brand of road shoes, have come back). Cushioning is muting a bit, no longer cloud-like- I'd say we're at 7.5/10 there. Still enjoyable to run in, kinda wish I'd bought a few more pairs since the other brand isn't as nice. The altras now feel firm but still far softer than the new balance minimus roads I loved before they went extinct. Starting to feel the old altras are like newer than new minimus roads. Signed up for the drop again if anyone else is interested.