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May 28, 2020

Sellita movement? No thanks. 120M water resistance, on a "sport/military" watch? Huh? Weird crown placement? Nope. I'll stick with my PAM196 and my Omega Seamaster.

Dmanjapan

May 29, 2020

Boyce89976I'm guessing avant-garde translates as weird crap? Why is that black dial so uneven? Is it slate?

Mrtza

May 29, 2020

Boyce89976You realize the PAM196 has a Valjoux7753 base right? Don't get me wrong, I love Panerai and only own the ETA based movements now, though I've owned a couple of in-house. I just prefer the ETA. The thing is, I'm not looking down on Selitta. Weird crown placement? Have you come across the seamaster bullhead? Radiomir is a military watch, 100M water resistance..... 0/3 my man

Boyce89976

May 30, 2020

MrtzaYes, I realize the 196 has a Valjoux movement. I'll take a Valjoux over a Sellita any day. You realize Valjoux and ETA are the same company now, right? What does the bullhead have to do with this watch? Radiomir is a historical piece with a simple crown... hard to get more than 100M of water resistance without a screw in, or locking crown. Nice try, my friend. ;)

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Mrtza

May 30, 2020

Boyce89976Yes, I realize that ETA and Valjoux are the same company. I didn’t feel the need to specify ETA Valjoux 7753. Sellita is very comparable to ETA movements. There have been no widespread quality issues and there was a long standing relationship between Selitta and ETA before Sellita created the clone movement. Oris widely uses sellita movements and they are as respected as the next brand. The bullhead I mention since it has the exact same crown positioning as this anonimo. Since you were talking about the seamaster, I thought the seamaster bullhead was a relatable reference point for you. lastly, the Radiomir has a screw down crown. so yeah, it was a nice (and successful) try

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Yeptx

May 31, 2020

Boyce89976Calling any Panerai "historical" is a stretch.

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Boyce89976

Jun 1, 2020

YeptxYou should read up their history. Not as long standing as Breguet, but they have as much historical significance as almost any other brand of sports/military styled watches.

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Boyce89976

Jun 1, 2020

MrtzaI don't think Oris commands the same respect as brands like Omega, Breitling, Zenith, Panerai, etc... brands that were built around ETA/Valjoux movements. So there is no way Sellita commands the same respect. Brands like Omega and Panerai that have moved on to their own in-house movements did so not due to quality issues, but simple economics, and the two-decades long reinvigoration of the mechanical watch. And I don't like the bullhead either... haha. The first, and foremost, feature I look for is functionality. Accessing a crown that almost inevitably requires removal of the watch from my wrist is neither functional or practical. It's a poor design IMO regardless who has executed it. Crown at 4 o'clock, destro, etc... make way more sense to me... but I like military watches. If this Anonimo claims too be a military watch, they missed the mark. No diver, pilot, or field operator would take a watch with that crown position... it's completely impractical in the field. I stand corrected on the Radiomir, I couldn't remember if it was a screw down crown or not. It's tilted more to the dress watch crowd anyway, so the 100m (300ft!) is plenty for 99.5% of the world's watch-buying population. Any more than that is purely bragging rights (BTW, you'd need a special dive suit to go that deep, so 100m is an unobtainable depth for almost anyone who's not a professional diver). If you like Anonimo grab this piece. It's a great price for a good watch. I'm more partial to their original pieces before they sold the company, but I never picked one up. Too each his own.

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Bobraz

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Jun 1, 2020

Boyce89976I agree with most your points, except the ETA one. ETA is unfortunately not selling ébauches to other companies anymore. Or rather, drastically less and less. Research it, it's well discussed everywhere on the web. In a few years, I think we're not going to find ETA movements in those smaller or independent brands that are outside of the Swatch Group. We all have to get used to it. Sellita, Seiko, Miyota, Soprod and others will fill the gap. It has already started, even in brands such as Oris, Glycine, even Bell & Ross. ETA is unfortunately almost not selling ébauches to other companies anymore. It's the way it is, neither a pro or a con anymore, in a watch. Anyway, Sellita was a subcontractor to ETA movements and in reality there is basically no difference in quality and performance between the two. ETA is preferred by enthusiasts (including myself) just based on history, but now Sellita should be considered as good and desirable and we (the watch enthusiasts) should all move on (or just buy from brands in the Swatch Group?). Mark my words, there will be a time when Selitta will be choice #1 for brands outside the Swatch Group, and people will say "watch XYZ has a Soprod / Seiko / Miyota movement, I won't buy this watch unless it has a Sellita movement"! I promise you this will happen!

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Mrtza

Jun 1, 2020

Boyce89976Agree to agree

Mrtza

Jun 2, 2020

Boyce89976Agreed with the history comment, Panerai is definitely a piece of historic significance. I mean there was more than Rolex and Omeeeegah in the 20th century

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Yeptx

Jun 5, 2020

Boyce89976I know their history, not much there. They sold some watches with Rolex movements to the military. That is about it as far as watchmaking goes. Until Stallone discovered them. Sorry to disappoint you.

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