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Apogee Culinary Dragon Fire BD1N 7" Nakiri Knife
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Apogee Culinary Dragon Fire BD1N 7" Nakiri Knife
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Traditionally, a Japanese Nakiri knife has a rectangular shape, but Apogee Culinary Designs has added a little twist to this particular Nakiri by upsweeping the tip of the knife so that it glides smoothly on a cutting board. Apogee’s Dragon Fire knives feature a slim profile with a 2.5-millimeter-thick blade, making them easy to maneuver Read More
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Kevin71
46
Mar 22, 2019
dj_stanleyYes, this is a full tang design. The knife extends through the handle area and is connected to the back bolster. The handle assembly itself is triple riveted.
14themoney
1395
Feb 8, 2019
I cannot tell from the picture, but the blade does not look too flat. I have owned two, and gifted one. They were quite flat which is necessary when chopping. My current one is high carbon and I like it very much. I picked up an 8" chef's knife in this steel from chefknivestogo. I am very impressed with it. It was $75.00. I don't recall paying any tax or S&H. My motivation in picking it up was to help me become familiar with this steel. If this is hardened up to where it should be and the blade is indeed flat, I could be quite happy with it. It certainly would require less work than my current one.
14themoney
1395
Feb 13, 2019
DOH! It didn't even occur to me to check out the reviews. I will take a look. Enjoy your meal. Cooking is always a lot more fun for me if I have someone to cook for. I must have missed the HRC. I might have to get one after all.
lassetjus
354
Feb 13, 2019
14themoneyI'm sure you will have someone to cook for eventually. In the meantime enjoy being able to cook exactly to your tastebuds.
Chaostrophy
44
Dec 18, 2018
What is the weight of the knife? Cook's Illustrated found that lighter was better, for this sort of vegetable chopper. Their fav was under 5oz (but, hey, that was Nov 2011).
ronCYA
339
Feb 3, 2019
ChaostrophyJust weighed mine; it's 234g. FWIW as a certified chef, once you get faster a very light knife will only slow you down.
captain
240
Dec 18, 2018
Decisions desicisions.... do I pay $10 more at massdrop, and wait a month for it to even ship, or get free 2-day shipping and pay only $96 total at https://www.cutleryandmore.com/yaxell-dragon/hollow-edge-nakiri-knife-red-handle-fire-series-p137459 ?
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captain
240
Feb 8, 2019
This has only happened to me personally once, to my knowledge, in the forum here; and once, that I recall, with an order. There’s just no reason to delete all the history, nor to edit someone’s post without telling him what and why. I can’t even tell, in the original post above, what the moderator edited. To Massdrop’s credit, it at least tagged my edited post so that I know that it WAS edited, but I did not receive an alert telling me it had happened, nor an explanation of what was being changed, nor why.
With the order, there’s just zero evidence left on massdrop.com that: I ordered, paid for, and then was told essentially, “Oops! We screwed up so you cannot have what you odered and paid for—here’s a refund.” That’s not how honest professional people do business. Albeit, it’s not criminal like some scammers I’ve encountered on ebay! :-)
FWIW, the item that I bought was a boardgame about Terraforming Mars. There was a HUGE amount of hype around this pre-release game, and I was greatly looking forward to getting an early copy at a good price. Massdrop’s FUBAR handling of the deal ended up costing me over twice as much. Luckily, I was able to get the game, but it burned my poor wallet—proving that there were games to be had (I feel like a Massdrop lied to us to cancel the orders because its profit margin wasn’t going to be big enough).
Nowadays, Massdrop doesn’t even seem to try to give us good deals. Usually the same items are available elsewhere for the same price, often much lower prices, with much faster delivery, and guarantees of proper history tracking. I still come here for the occasional oddball item or very rare good deal, but the last couple of orders have burned me again (a misadvertized toy that’s substandard, and a defective flashlight). I’ll probably EVENTUALLY get my money back on the defective light after jumping through many hoops, but I’m probably just out $80 for the cheap crap toy sold as high-end executive quality. sigh
14themoney
1395
Feb 8, 2019
captainThank you. I would like to believe that people were more interested in doing the right thing than saving face. But. sigh.
stevefury68
155
Dec 16, 2018
Looks like a great knife, wish it didn't say Dragon Fire on the side of it. Dealbreaker
AWDuck
11
Dec 18, 2018
I agree, Dragon Fire sounds cheesy. I also dislike the character embossed in the pommel. Once my knives approach the 3 digit mark, I want them to have less text in them, not more. If a knife looks, works and feels great, your workmates _will_ ask about it.
I don't want to rain on your parade, but I'd bet you one of these knives that that logo isn't printed on, but is probably electroetched in. Electrolytic etching a fast, food safe and mostly permanent way to mark steel (I've used this method myself on some of my blades).
Good news is if they only used AC current (quite likely), there's very little material removed and the material is just darkened. You can easily sand this logo out, though it will take time, you'll have to sand the whole blade and it may change the finish of the blade permanently (it'll be as shiny as a mirror) I bought a blade blank with a corny looking logo on the side and started with 2,000 grit sandpaper and worked my way up to 36,000 - you'd never know it was there, and the mirror finish looked really refined.
The logo will also work it's way out over time through use - I don't think I have a single manufactured knife that has a visible maker's mark anymore - the food you cut up with it will slowly polish the logo text away, especially as this is a veg knife.
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stevefury68
155
Dec 18, 2018
AWDuckHey thanks for the advice. I'm sure your right about how it's printed on the blade. Sanding it off was something I was already considering and just run through the grits and make it real pretty like you said. I went back to the main discussion to and found a link someone named Captain posted a link to a site Cutlery & More for the same knive. Checked it out and the discount he got is no longer there but that got me to digging on my own. Found the same knife on Amazon only this one has the hollow edge scallop grinds in the side of the blade, which I like better, and because of the scallops the Kanji symblol and Dragon's Fire are in tiny print. Win, Win. It's $20 more but I get 5% back so it's $13 more and I'll have it in my hands on Thursday! Thanks AWDuck for the thumbs up and advice.
Brian8383
Oct 25, 2018
BD1N steel is the real deal. I find it better than VG10. Amazing edge retention and you can get them scary sharp. But it is also a very durable steel which is great for the knife abuser I married. It's not as prone to chipping and its hardness means it doesn't 'fold' as easy as others.
kforbes67
7
Oct 23, 2018
Great Steel terrific fit and finish. I have the dragon fire boning knife and a terrific 10.5 inch dragon slicer. Great company also. Very positive experience. I bought direct from Apogee.
Jahblaze
13
Sep 13, 2018
I own this knife it is amazing, all of the Dragon series knives are amazing, but this one particularly is great for fast prep and precise cuts. I got it for a great price on Cutlery and more, which is actually cheaper than here after shipping and such, but for $99 I would recommend buying this knife a thousand times over. BD1N is my new favorite steelsteel by far
dbasham
10
Sep 17, 2018
JahblazeI ended up ordering the Dragon Fusion hybrid knife from Cutlery and More and with the 20% discount it is just a bit more than this particular knife (as I said below that is the knife I have been coveting). I currently plan to also buy the regular Dragon 8" chef's knife and paring knife set from C&M and may consider this and other BD1N Dragon knives in the future but currently I don't have an unlimited budget so it is 1 great knife at a time.
14themoney
1395
Feb 8, 2019
AF. Autofocusing? Amputating finger? Or should I have gone with my first impression?
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