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Atlantic Worldmaster Lusso Automatic Watch

Atlantic Worldmaster Lusso Automatic Watch

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Since 1888, Atlantic has been producing timepieces that give Swiss watchmaking its storied reputation. The Worldmaster Lusso features Sellita SW-200, an automatic Swiss movement Read More

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neonsocks
1
Dec 25, 2017
ugh. I was hoping to join this drop and they're sold out on the white face. Please add more inventory!
ConchitaTurtle
11
Dec 24, 2017
Atlantic brand is better know in some Eastern Europe countries. I remember them in some watch stores in Poland.
Cloaca
1906
Dec 23, 2017
Is Atlantic a legitimate Swiss watchmaker? I'm willing to listen to claims that it is, but it doesn't pass my quick sniff test.
1. They have SWISS MADE on the dial. As I have written elsewhere, this is meaningless. You get a rotor decorated in Switzerland and send it to China for the rest of the parts and assembly and you can meet the SWISS MADE 60 percent value standard.
2. My newer standard is to check whether the company is a member of the FHS, the Federation of the Swiss Watch Industry. No Atlantic here. The FHS is pretty liberal in admitting companies, including fashion brands who do watches on the side. But they do ask questions, have standards, and require membership fees.
3. Then I look at the website for disclosure. Where is it? Is there a phone number that I can call. Names of company officials. Corporate status: where it's incorporated. Nothing. Then I look at the ubiquitous history summary, looking for ... "The Gap." Yep, here it is. Founded 1888, with many events and much progress through 1965. Then crickets. Then in 2015 Atlantic celebrates its 125th anniversary. Congratulations. What happened between 1965 and 2015? A half century missing. I'm guessing quartz crisis, out of business or moribund, bought by someone, Chinese? Italian? German?, then revived with Chinese manufacturing.
Update:
I found the corporate registration page (German) in Switzerland: https://www.zefix.ch/en/search/entity/list/firm/10490?name=atlantic%20watch&searchType=default
I found this YouTube video with some of their staff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa9hMGuP9DU
Flypanam
249
Dec 25, 2017
Atlantic does have an actual swiss pedigree, though. The company was founded in 1888. The company actually renamed itself Atlantic because they produced some of the earliest waterproof watches. They survived the quartz crisis by withdrawing from many markets and focusing on selling upscale swiss mechanical watches in Soviet bloc countries with little exposure to Japanese quartz. That's why there is little brand recognition in the US and to an extent western Europe, but if you go to somewhere like Poland or Romania people would recognize the brand pretty readily. They're one of the few truly independent swiss watch manufacturers left, except for the fact that they don't currently have their own movements.
Cloaca
1906
Dec 26, 2017
FlypanamWith a history like that I wonder why they are not a member of the FHS?
http://www.fhs.swiss/eng/watch_brands.html?letter=A
I'm reading now on Wikiepedia that the FHS represents more than 90 percent of Swiss watch manufacturers, over 500 companies, but I guess that leaves 9 percent or so who aren't members. You'd think that those 9 percent would be the smallest companies or those that only make minor components though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_the_Swiss_Watch_Industry
The FHS took the side of tightening the SWISS MADE requirements in 2012, and some companies fought back. The previous requriements specified 50 percent value Swiss content and the new requriements specify 60 percent. Most FHS members wanted the Swiss content requirements raised to 80 percent. So I would expect that companies that were anti-FHS were companies with more Chineses content.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/28/business/global/swiss-watch-industry-seeks-to-tighten-requirements.html
Classic quote from the article:
"Vincent Chan, Golden Hawk’s director, makes no apologies for Swiss Mountain’s methods, or its watches, whose top-of-the-line model sells for $450. Even if everybody in Switzerland isn’t perhaps happy about what we do, there’s nothing they can do about it because we follow the rules,” Mr. Chan said in an interview last month at Baselworld, the world’s biggest watch fair."
Mr. Chan? Mr. Chan?!
Neither Golden Hawk nor Swiss Mountain are listed as FHS members, so the 9 percent may mostly consist of Chinese interlopers who incorporated a paper company in Switzerland. So I'm not sure where that leaves Atlantic, and I'd like to know more about outside investments and stock ownership changes during the 50-year gap in their company history timeline.
MeGaBx
4
Dec 22, 2017
LOL it says 11 white units available but there have been 5 sold and there are no more white ones
kamilc
0
Dec 23, 2017
MeGaBxI see 4 sold, so where the heck is missing white dial watch ;/
Kbone
50
Dec 22, 2017
I always get suspicious when a ”limited edition” shows up on massdrop. It typically means they can’t sell them off. In this case, I’m going to guess it’s the 44mm case on a dress watch that’s preventing people from buying it. I was considering it myself until I saw the size.
Omegaman68
546
Dec 22, 2017
KboneI agree about the size. In my opinion 44mm with a large dial opening/no bezel looks even larger on the wrist, it wears almost like a 46-47mm. This watch would be perfect at 38-40mm.
NeWaVdubs
218
Dec 22, 2017
Damn.. no option sans gold. *sigh*
Outtyninja
92
Dec 22, 2017
I wish more watches had that clasping option.
Expert
5
Dec 22, 2017
OuttyninjaYou can buy a similar deployant clasp and use it on practically any leather strap.
Outtyninja
92
Dec 22, 2017
ExpertI have seen some of them, but this one has the brand right on it, and it looks nice. The generic clasps are cheap-looking.
tanderson
1
Jul 21, 2017
Just received this watch and love it. The user guide is pretty sparse though - is there a way to manually wind these? If so, do you know what crown position and direction actually winds the mainspring?
Tomasm
2
Jun 22, 2017
Where can i find more information about this watch? And is it worth the money? I dont know much about watches, so could anyone give me a evaluation of the watch?
oldcrow
32
Jun 21, 2017
400 would be auto cop. 500 is think twice...
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With a history like that I wonder why they are not a member of the FHS? http://www.fhs.swiss/eng/watch_brands.html?letter=A I'm reading now on Wikiepedia that the FHS represents more than 90 percent of Swiss watch manufacturers, over 500 companies, but I guess that leaves 9 percent or so who aren't members. You'd think that those 9 percent would be the smallest companies or those that only make minor components though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_the_Swiss_Watch_Industry The FHS took the side of tightening the SWISS MADE requirements in 2012, and some companies fought back. The previous requriements specified 50 percent value Swiss content and the new requriements specify 60 percent. Most FHS members wanted the Swiss content requirements raised to 80 percent. So I would expect that companies that were anti-FHS were companies with more Chineses content. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/28/business/global/swiss-watch-industry-seeks-to-tighten-requirements.html Classic quote from the article: "Vincent Chan, Golden Hawk’s director, makes no apologies for Swiss Mountain’s methods, or its watches, whose top-of-the-line model sells for $450. Even if everybody in Switzerland isn’t perhaps happy about what we do, there’s nothing they can do about it because we follow the rules,” Mr. Chan said in an interview last month at Baselworld, the world’s biggest watch fair." Mr. Chan? Mr. Chan?! Neither Golden Hawk nor Swiss Mountain are listed as FHS members, so the 9 percent may mostly consist of Chinese interlopers who incorporated a paper company in Switzerland. So I'm not sure where that leaves Atlantic, and I'd like to know more about outside investments and stock ownership changes during the 50-year gap in their company history timeline.
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