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mattris
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Sep 13, 2018
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The DT880 should have been called the DT8800 for the wide treble peak centered at 8800 Hz. While they have well-presented bass and mids, the DT880 are substantially bright. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
Sep 13, 2018
rongon
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Oct 9, 2018
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https://kenrockwell.com/audio/beyer/dt-880.htm
That review seems to suggest the balance is 'accurate' rather than overly bright. Unfortunately I can't say for sure, because I haven't heard the DT880 Pro. I have heard the DT770 Pro (closed back), and those are not as hashy/bright as the Sony MDR-7506. I imagine the DT880 Pro isn't either.
Oct 9, 2018
mattris
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Oct 9, 2018
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I owned the DT770 and agree, it's not bright... relatively neutral and had excellent detail retrieval, especially for the price. On the other hand, the DT880 was very bright. Look at the wide treble peak on its measured frequency response graph (upper-left):
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicDT880250ohm.pdf
That peak is at 3-6 db too high... and is very audible.
Oct 9, 2018
rongon
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Oct 9, 2018
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Hmmm, good to know about the DT770 Pro. I did like them when I auditioned them, but that was something like 25 years ago.
I've seen those FR graphs for a whole lot of headphones, and since none of them are even remotely close to flat response, I'm not sure what to make of them all. I suppose there's a target curve that 'sounds like flat' to a majority of people, and that's what mfgs aim for. Of course short, sharp peaks (and dips) in FR usually make for audible problems. I'll have to try to audition a pair of DT880 to find out what I think of them. Is there a big difference in FR between the Pro and Premium versions? (And why does the Premium cost so much less?)
I have a pair of the Massdrop/Sennheiser HD6XX, which I like, but I'm not sure I'd call them 'accurate.' They are certainly smooth, though, and certainly sound brighter than my Fostex T50RP (older version). Both are far nicer sounding than my 25 year old Sony MDR-7506, for whatever that's worth.
Oct 9, 2018
cwelton17
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Nov 28, 2018
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I've been curious about Beyerdynamics for a while because they have a good reputation especially for electronic music (and because I'm basically addicted to buying random shit). I've suddenly turned into a bit of a bass head but I'm also sensitive to overly bright treble which the Beyers also seem to have a reputation for.So for me, DT880 are definitely out. And really I think I've answered my own question. I should just find a way to audition a pair, maybe the DT770s, before I order any online since I'm so concerned about it. I'll have to look around!
Nov 28, 2018
mattris
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Nov 29, 2018
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Correct, most Beyerdynamics are a bit bright. But I remember the DT770 being quite transparent and neutral, without excessive bass or treble. Would you be using your next headphones mostly at home? Do you prefer around-ear headphones? Do you want the headphones to have more-than-neutral bass by default... or would or be fine with engaging a bass boost with software or hardware?
Nov 29, 2018
Merv73
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Dec 21, 2018
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Please take individual earshape, age, etc. into account. They may sound a bit too bright to some, but to me they sound just right (admittedly, on the trebly side of just right, whereas HD6XX is on the "darkish" side of just right).
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Dec 21, 2018
Uzuzu
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Dec 30, 2018
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They sound natural to me, not excessively bright. What is with people wanting such nasty dark headphones, the world will never know. To be fair I use the 600 ohm, most people say it isn't sibilant compared to the other models, and I would attest to that so long as you are listening to 75db or lower, which is what you should be listening to as a volume. Before you call me treble deaf too I still hear to 18600hz so my ears are good ;-)
Dec 30, 2018
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