No frame lock, no thank you
4-17-2017*****lol, it is truly amazing what people care about in life....... Me, my comment, my rudeness. Lmao, historical πππππ
sickjunkersoooo they would what make the "frame lock" out of wood? its essentially a frame lock with a scale on the outside, not a "true" linerlock on this design, "liner lock" in name only
sickjunkerI can see how that came off as snarky, not intended, but im not sure what the differance is? The frame on this knife is the lock, there is no internal liner, so for all intents and purposes it is a frame lock with and outside scale, not a traditional liner lock, where there is a frame, and a real thin "liner" inside the frame.
The "liner lock" on this is knife is a missnomer...i have 3 of them, its not a matter of belief its a fact..
sickjunkerThe Kwaiken is a frame lock.
the frame is also the lock. There is no secondary lock "attached" to the frame.
By any definition it's a frame lock knife.
Thank you you for playing.
PACougHey [nope], obviously like one above, read all the posts. I already said I was wrong and didn't see it. Go do something....
Thanks for playing with me and showing us your common sense. Lol.
sickjunkerThe 7 knives in this picture, are my most commonly carried knives. The Tuxedo Kwaiken, Al Mar HD Eagle, Cold Steel Code4, and ZT 0562f being the most carried. Of these 7 knives, there are 5 different lock designs, including a 3 liner locks and one frame lock. A frame lock and liner lock can be just as strong, or just as weak, or one stronger than the other, because the difference between the two does not matter. Both will fail in the same way, and that will be by interface slip. The interface between the tang and lock bar is the most important factor, and a frame lock or a liner lock can have a good or bad interface. I own 3 variations of the Boker Kwaiken, and all three of them have very good lock up, they have a well designed interface.
All of these knives are effectively just as strong. Why would I say this when clearly the Code4 has them beat? Because all 7 of them have strong enough lock up as to, if one fails and closes on me, it's my fault, I was doing something wrong and drastically misusing the knife. For a EDC knife, realistically you don't even need a lock, and if you make one fail, it means you were probably using the knife way to hard. If you want a knife to beat up, get a fixed blade.
DanTheKnifeManAll I know is that when I grip a frame lock, it's staying locked. You are more than welcome to enjoy the cheap liner locks. Maybe your ok at taking a risk of hurting yourself when stabbing somebody in the chest........ I'm not
I think it may be time for Massdrop to step in on this one...This has gotten so far away from the purpose of this site and these discussions. We are not discussing, or even challenging thought in any meaningful way at this point. This has developed into slander of people and even soldiers and/or veterans, intolerance, and even to the extent of ill willed threats and boasting of taking another life. Which I don't even understand how that is justifiable at a fundamental level. This place is supposed to be for development, not destruction. Let's try and move on from this in a substantially different direction...
I'm gonna be moderating/removing a bunch of these comments and any further ones in this conversation as they have mostly become ad hominem attacks and don't add anything to the discussion.
4-17-2017*****lol, it is truly amazing what people care about in life....... Me, my comment, my rudeness. Lmao, historical πππππ
the frame is also the lock. There is no secondary lock "attached" to the frame.
By any definition it's a frame lock knife.
Thank you you for playing.
Thanks for playing with me and showing us your common sense. Lol.
All of these knives are effectively just as strong. Why would I say this when clearly the Code4 has them beat? Because all 7 of them have strong enough lock up as to, if one fails and closes on me, it's my fault, I was doing something wrong and drastically misusing the knife. For a EDC knife, realistically you don't even need a lock, and if you make one fail, it means you were probably using the knife way to hard. If you want a knife to beat up, get a fixed blade.
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