Bradford Knives Guardian 4 Fixed Blade Knife Discussions | Drop

Jul 13, 2017

Big this was the 3 I'd be all over it And cpm3v yup I'd take 2

Jul 13, 2017

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Jul 17, 2017

Frankie79why would you have it in 3v instead of m390? what tasks do you use yours with?

Jul 17, 2017

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Jul 17, 2017

anonomousSimply because I own m390 knives and enjoy them but yet to have a 3v and I want a guardian 3 badly for edc and green belt walks this would be perfectly a chance to try one of two things my first Bradford same as my first in cpm 3v

Jul 17, 2017

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Jul 17, 2017

Frankie79This current drop is for a guardian 4 not a 3. And 3v is for chopping and other high toughness tasks. A small knife like the 3 will get better cutting and edge retention using m390. A guardian 4 or even 5 will benefit more with 3v because then you can do some heavy chopping and battoning with it.

Jul 17, 2017

Jul 17, 2017

anonomousLol thanks I enjoy bushcrafting and own m390 and would like to try 3v I own many knives many steels and simple answered your question as to why I also enjoy my edc fixed blade smaller What I don't enjoy is being baited into a educational rant . You asked I answered Thanks for taking the time to educate me about you ..... Also I simple said if it was the guardian 3 I'm aware of what the drop is for ..

Jul 17, 2017

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Jul 17, 2017

Frankie79I didn't bait you. Do whatever you want. 3v is a good steel for any tasks, but for a smaller blade you will have a better advantage and more for your money with m390. And Visa versa with 3v for a larger knife.
If your just a collector cool beans. Get them in every flavor.

Jul 17, 2017

Jul 17, 2017

anonomousCool thanks for the info

Jul 17, 2017

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Jul 17, 2017

Frankie79I should have included this earlier but here is the difference in edge retention.

Jul 17, 2017

Jul 17, 2017

anonomousReally that much!!!!

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Jul 17, 2017

anonomousI'll be the first to admit i have lost to learn

Jul 17, 2017

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Jul 17, 2017

Frankie79Yup, I got a lot to learn too, we all do. No worries. As I mentioned tho, the trade-off is that 3v has alot of toughness. You can smash cinder blocks and the edge won't chip (well that depends on lots of factors). Hence why 3v is used for heavy use tasks. It's good knife steel tho. The edge retention for 3v is very good. Just not as awesome as m390. But m390 would be a problem with very hard use.
The guy that does the testing, Pete, is going to test more knives on 3v also. That one was bark river, the next one will be cold steel. And possibly an LT Wright. Check out his reviews and cut tests. He's really funny.
www.youtube.com/user/CedricAda/videos
Here's a podcast with him that's worth the listen www.geargeekslive.com/episode-89-favorites-not-best

Jul 17, 2017

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Jul 18, 2017

anonomousFunny, I was just reading an article which quoted those numbers! https://www.everydaycommentary.com/?offset=1500137942722 I'd never heard of Maxamet. Anyway, I was trying to decide between 3V and M390 for this drop, so I googled around a bit and found this forum discussion too: https://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62976&sid=b9953f9651f2c3f8a8cd5a7923823edc&start=20 In the end I went with 3V, because it sounds awesome enough. There was one comment that made an impression with me: "...outside of cutting stock materials in experiments, I have always found that in general I sharpen when the blade gets damaged from accidental contact. If this can be avoided and you only cut clean materials then edge holding is so high on any modern steels it is rarely a considering factor. I recently gave a Havalon Piranta to some friends who all hunt big game. This uses replaceable scalpel blades, a very basic stainless steel. They never replaced a blade on an animal (moose mainly) unless they broke it off (I asked them to attempt to do that specifically to see how hard it was to do) and could easily handle an entire moose with the same blade. " Also this comment from the first post: " I also note that steels like M4 and 3V that maybe scored lower than some folks would expect, are directly in the centre of the 'being great on multiple fronts' venn diagram of sorts. Frankly, steels like M4 and 3V, steels that can be so tough as well as have very good edge retention, are as impressive to me as Maxamet." So that made me think that I don't usually mind when a knife gets blunt, but I do mind when the edge gets damaged, and I don't like feeling too precious to avoid staples, plates, or other hard objects when cutting stuff - so I'm happy to try 3V for this knife, even though M390's awesome reputation and numerical advantage does still tempt me! Of course everyone has their own reasons for wanting to try different steels, so I'm not wanting to sound like I want to change your mind - just that I saw this interesting discussion and wanted to add my thoughts. Thanks for the links, @anonomous .

Jul 18, 2017

Jul 18, 2017

TigermanThis is a great perspective Tigerman.

Jul 18, 2017