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RayF
22218
Apr 25, 2019
I don’t think anyone should actually spend eight-grand on a watch. I’d go so far as to question whether any watch is actually worth eight-grand (or more). Sure, people buy and sell them— I’m not referring to capability, I’m thinking about the responsibility/ethics/morality angle. Not sure I’d want to admit to spending that much on a watch—not that I’ll have to worry about it any time soon, but it’s worth debating.
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jkwva
32
Apr 26, 2019
RayFI don’t think anyone should pass judgement on the morality of someone spending their own money. You have no idea what a person does as far as charitable giving, volunteering, community advocacy or anything else. Let each person self assess as how they guide themselves is their own decision.
RayF
22218
Apr 26, 2019
jkwvaPeople do a lot things to rationalize their beliefs and behavior. I was just pointing out the irrationality of it all. PS: guilty conscience?
A community member
May 10, 2019
RayFThis is really not worth debating at all.
RayF
22218
May 10, 2019
It’s not a debate.
iKnowThings
287
Jun 5, 2019
RayFI think people should spend their money on whatever the fuck they want
slashrawr
7
Jun 5, 2019
iKnowThingsSo I was trying to construct a really thoughtful, well articulated response but I came to realise that yours is actually *perfect*. Well played, sir.
VinaigreDeRiz
185
Jun 5, 2019
jkwvaThe point is not that people help old ladies cross roads or not. First, at this price range, the mark up that the company sets is clearly outrageous. The actual costs of production, including intermediary consumption, are left in the dust. So the point is that if you still buy a watch that expensive, either you don't realize that you're getting robbed, or you like it and indulge in conspicuous consumption; the whole point of which being, all things considered, to violently step on other people's heads via financial status. All of the above, by the way, consists of facts.
arobilotto
20
Jun 5, 2019
VinaigreDeRizYou’re not getting robbed if you’re paying fair market value for an item. The cost of the parts/manufacturing does not determine the value- that is up to the market. The value of a Warhol is not determined by how much paint costs. I’ll leave the morality clause to you- just remember who built the electronic device you’re typing on before climbing on your soapbox.
RayF
22218
Jun 5, 2019
arobilottoIf you're suggesting what people pay for things has some correlation to what those things are actually worth, you've obviously missed @VinaigreDeRiz 's point. Maybe Paris can explain things to you?
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arobilotto
20
Jun 5, 2019
RayFSuggested nothing of the sort, Bud - Fair Market Value , use the internet to your advantage and look it up.
RayF
22218
Jun 5, 2019
arobilottoNot me pal; I only use the internet when I want to buy another eight-thousand dollar watch--same as you!
RayF
22218
Jun 6, 2019
slashrawrNot lack of involvement; you're obviously here (such as your are)--it's you lack of credibility, that's at issue. And then there's that that bit about "I'm a victim of trolls" cry for help! Tut, tut; I bet you say that every time your cross paths with someone willing to point out you're full of shit? I mean, not that it wasn't obvious beforehand, right? Anyway, judging from the way you've chosen to decorate your profile page, I'd say your search for "purpose" in life will probably take at least two or three more eight-thousand dollar watch drops and one or two more participation tokens before you reach Nirvana ;- )
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The path lies before you, my son!
slashrawr
7
Jun 6, 2019
RayFCredibility? On the internet? Surely you jest! Let me fill you in on a little secret; the only "credibility" that carries any weight on Massdrop/Drop/DropMass/TheMass/TheDrop/DropTheMass is held by those that actually pay circa $9k for a watch. If you had spent less time trying to increase your credibility "epeen" you too may have been able to afford such a thing rather than whinging about the people that do. Snoop said it best (and since you're all about the image game)...
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slashrawr
7
Jun 6, 2019
RayFCool story, bro. You do you. Stay classy. ;-)
VinaigreDeRiz
185
Jun 7, 2019
RayFYeah so, anyway, how was your day? (helping a brother pass the time)
RayF
22218
Jun 7, 2019
VinaigreDeRizNot bad--did a little shopping and prepping for a short business trip to Phoenix in the AM. I'll have to make some tuff decisions before I leave--like which which watch to take with me. Chances are pretty good, whichever one I pick will have Seiko written on it somewhere it ;- ) So how's by you?
VinaigreDeRiz
185
Jun 7, 2019
RayFMy, my, that's quite a good day you had (abstracting for a second from the terrible dilemna you face; I do not envy you for that): and here I was thinking you were getting harassed by a millenialigan! That's a relief. Me? Oh, not much, been having a lot of fun on certain online zoos/forums, though 😂 In all seriousness, I myself also face an unruly conundrum: watch collection rationalization. The hobby is only a few months old for me, and it's amazing how quickly tastes change!
RayF
22218
Jun 7, 2019
VinaigreDeRizYes, watches can be both a hobby and an affliction. I'd been more of an observer, than participant for the past several years, but after thinking "what could be the harm?" I ordered a Seiko Monster. I was okay with that one for a while, but then I discovered this site, and things started to unravel fast. Lets just say I have more watches than wrists to wear them on. Turns out, if one is trying to give up drugs, they shouldn't spend a lot of time hanging out at a crack-house! Who knew? As for my tastes, I'm pretty much sticking with divers and tool oriented watches--collecting dress watches would be like trying to count stars in galaxy! And as for the "millenialigans"--they're like the mosquitos you encounter on a fishing trip--a few are to be expected--squish 'em when you can, but don't let 'em ruin your fun! Off to AZ, take care!