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Burson Audio V5i Opamps

Burson Audio V5i Opamps

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All audio equipment needs opamps—from DACs to preamps, from studio mixing consoles to PC sound cards to car amps. They’re as important to audio gear as the lens is to a movie projector Read More

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Calaverasgrande
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Dec 14, 2018
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Some actual specs to justify the price premium would be good. For example, many single/dual/quad series opamps can exhibit flat response which easily exceeds 20hz to 20khz. That is really no challenge. Instead, quality op amps distinguish themselves by their noise performance (better examples having much lower noise). The next specification we often look to would be slew rate or rsie time. How quickly can the op amp throw a square wave signal with the least amount of deformation. Some op amps have great noise figures, but are weak on slew rate. There are also mitigating factors. Opamps are not tubes. In most audio gear you have many opamps. Input amp, interstage buffers, output amp, balancing/unbalancing amp. Either way I'll stick to Burr Brown/TI opamps for my critical applications. Plain old TL074 for not so critical.
Motorrad
2869
Jun 30, 2019
haha. "relentlessly obnoxious prick" still doesn't make me wrong. Being wrong sucks, huh? It would seem my highest rated comments are some very choice personal insults and the inevitable banter and hi-jinks that ensue. Go figure. Though it's true, I do spend an inordinate amount of my comment time calling out hypocritical, bloviating douchebags... Maybe you should ask yourself why you are such a douche. Seriously. Out of curiosity, when you review a headphone, do you rely on a FR graph to inform you that it actually sounds different than the previous headphone you were listening to? Since...you know..."Any changes you talk yourself into in the time it takes to swap out an opamp (or by extension, a headphone) are not reliable objectively, and are often more the result of the lump of fat between your ears." hahaha
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audible
605
Jul 2, 2019
--->'when you review a headphone, do you rely on a FR graph to inform you that it actually sounds different than the previous headphone you were listening to?'<--- exactly. but then: 'in the time it takes to swap out an opamp', maybe it takes some folks a loooong time to swap an opamp.
deeks
49
Dec 14, 2018
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Without a precision scope to measure the difference in improvement (if there is any), any gains heard by ear is expectational bias.
new_blade_fan
39
Dec 18, 2018
Since when is listening to music an objective experience ?
scruffy1
43
Jan 5, 2019
since when is objective measurement why i would listen to music ? but i know what i like, and it's why i choose to taste chocolate over brussel sprouts, even though the latter is technically healthier
TonyRizo
179
Dec 14, 2018
I installed the Burson v5i op. on my Little Bear B4 portable tube amp and it kicks butt. Stronger sound, more dynamics. A very simple replacement you can do yourself. At this Price I'd jump on it right away.
Davestef
239
Feb 21, 2019
I think that’s the same burson that I got for my little dot 1+. Im about the pull the trigger on a b4. Any idea if if you can use/bring the little bear on an airplane?
TonyRizo
179
Feb 21, 2019
Hmmmm, interesting. I can't say I have tried. I do know the tubes interfere with smart phones due to radio frequency. You have to separate the two....no stacking with cell phones.
LuckyLuke575
557
Jun 27, 2019
"Members assume responsibility for any damaged gear as a result of making the installation." Thanks, but I think I'll pass.
LuckyLuke575
557
Aug 23, 2019
You're probably right, but I'm the least technical guy in the world, so I'd probably end up breaking it before I did any good with the mod lol
Kris2014
64
Aug 24, 2019
The most possible way you can break it is through removing opamp from socket improperly and bend the legs... if you are not using 3m style sockets with tabs, but ones that has round holes, opamp can be VERY difficult to unplug without any deform. Nowadays i double socketed almost all my opamps.
SStas
95
Dec 14, 2018
So... Just my $0.02 for those who are interested, but I bought the dual single direct from Burson as an upgrade for my Little Dot 1+, and I can say without a doubt that it was some of the best money I have ever spend on mods for a unit. With the right tubes on the input stage, it basically doubled the sound quality. It is just a bit warm with great bass, but without the highs being sacrificed. I can't speak to using it in any other units, but I am very happy with the application I am using it in. Now, dealing with Burson and their terrible communication while shipping took weeks to even happen is a totally different story. Not even mentioning that the price I paid was nearly double this drop. I may buy one or two of these to try on other units in the future. YMMV..
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Kbaum
61
Dec 14, 2018
Agreed huge improvement to my littledot. Russian tubes help too.
SStas
95
Dec 14, 2018
Best match I have found so far are late 50's Sylvania JHS-5654/6AK5W. Maybe not the bassiest, but all around fantastic 6J1 replacements for fairly cheap compared to what I've had to spend on 6DJ8 or 6SN7 NOS upgrades over the years.
Hexital
9
Jul 17, 2019
Are these being shipped directly to us from China as the tracking number would suggest?
Blze001
19
Jul 21, 2019
My guess is they're shipping directly from the factory, which is likely in China even if the company is Australian.
PandasFinest
10
Jul 23, 2019
It seems so. The company appears to be International Bridge (At least on mine) which is notorious for extremely slow shipping in the Drop community. If you use your tracking code at https://www.myib.com/trackpackage it should tell you its actual status.
jberd
6
Jan 23, 2019
Burson V5i Not as advertised. Be sure to double check your supply voltages before ordering the Burson V5i. The Burson V5i-Dual is NOT a direct replacement for all the parts as claimed on the massdrop site.
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For example: The OPA 2134 data sheet shows it is rated from +/- 2.5 to +/- 18Vdc The Burson data sheet is hard to find but shows the V5i-D is rated from +/- 5 to +/- 16 Vdc. This may be problematic on either side of the voltage range so you should double check before ordering. My circuit runs at +/- 16.8 Vdc so I cant use them. It is unfortunate that Massdrop did not check this before making these claims. The Burson has lots of favorable reviews and I was looking forward to hearing them. I will be returning them to Massdrop for a refund. Update: Massdrop has refused to issue a refund even though they falsely advertised the capabilities of the product. Massdrop support said I need to contact Burson, Burson says it is a massdrop issue because it was a special price purchase so they do not cover it (even though Burson advertises a 30 day return policy). I am hoping one or the other organizations will realize this is the opposite of customer service and simply refund my money. Until they do I think everyone should realize if you but something from Massdrop (perhaps everything they advertise) you are buying something with no warranty whatsoever and if it does not work their attitude is tough luck.
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Moon-Pie
1
Mar 19, 2019
Contact your country/state's consumer protection agency. Misleading advertising is exactly the kind of thing they are supposed to deal with. It is high time consumers started standing up for themselves instead of behaving like slaves. Know your rights and exercise them. If your country does not have a consumer protection agency then that is a sad thing indeed.
scruffy1
43
Jul 1, 2019
good points re the refund policy the only current solution is to double check the product spec sheet prior to purchase, as advertising should never be taken as accurate the other option is purchase via paypal, and then let them sort out the issue.. not a fast process, but in my experience a very satisfactory one
springbay
107
Dec 14, 2018
For anyone looking at the pictures and thinking about using the V5i-D in their Xduoo XD-05. You need to know that the upgrade will give a wider/deeper sound stage compared to the default opamp. BUT, the XD-05 will turn it self of if you use it with the V5i-D on high gain. Low and medium works great, but high gain not at all. More info in the Head-fi thread about the XD-05. We are many that experience the same problem.
Motorrad
2869
Dec 15, 2018
I emailed directly about a year and a half ago. They sent a PDF that I can't find...sorry. will holler at you if I come up with it.
Zakmllr
30
Mar 27, 2019
I just purchase do one and put it in my xd-05. I can confirm this is an issue. Unfortunate but it still sounds amazing on medium gain. And is the the right amount of loud for me tbh. Sometimes I wish I could just blow my eardrums out but cannot.
lemon07r
55
Dec 14, 2018
Good upgrade from the  TI Burr Brown OPA2134? This is the amp my motherboard is using (it is upgradeable with an IC extractor). Would this V5i amp work with my motherboard? And lastly, should I be buying a single V5i Dual, a matched pair of the duals, or a matched pair of the singles to upgrade my motherboard audio?
rastanearian
14
Dec 14, 2018
Save your money and wait for the next Chord Mojo drop.
lemon07r
55
Dec 15, 2018
Will do, glad I was able to get some second opinions here since I dont know a thing about op-amps
Tumbledry
25
Jan 29, 2019
My experience with Burson Audio customer service is horrible. I will never buy a Burson Audio product again and as a result of this I can not recommend Burson Audio products.
Chaaa
1
Mar 19, 2019
Would you care to inform everyone of your experience?
Burson_Support
4
Mar 20, 2019
Hi Tumbledry. Have you emailed our team detailing the issues you having? We pride ourselves on customer service, and the lifetime warranty on each V5i-D is part of our commitment to the audiophile community. We ask you to contact us to work out on a solution.
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