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The Clear Light headphone cables come from Cardas Audio: an Oregon-based, family-run manufacturer that’s gained a strong reputation among audio enthusiasts for making high-quality cables that don’t compromise on anything. These light, flexible cables are based on the company’s flagship cables, but with both the left and right channels in a single cable Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downElzizo
520
Dec 6, 2017
Ursine audio is much better option in my opinion. The highest quality cable to cost ratio I have found to date.
http://ursine.audio/
http://ursine.audio/
RayF
22219
Aug 4, 2018
Specking the mid-length cable for a pair of 6XXs with a balanced connector comes out to $198?! Every headphone ships with a cable the manufacturer thought was a good cable (which is to say, a cable the manufacturer thought was good enough to make their headphones sound the way they thought they should sound--which by extension, means no manufacturer would supply a crappy cable, because a crappy cable would make their headphones sound crappy and that would be the opposite of what they want--but this will make them sound better than the manufacturer thought they could make them sound?
Assuming that was actually the, doesn't it stand to reason the manufacturers would just include a better cable to begin with? And that that cable (owing to the economics of scale) could be built and sold for much, much less than two-hundred dollars? So what manufacture would give up the opportunity to offer a better sounding headphone (read: sell more headphones) at the marginal extra cost of a better cable?
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Assuming that was actually the, doesn't it stand to reason the manufacturers would just include a better cable to begin with? And that that cable (owing to the economics of scale) could be built and sold for much, much less than two-hundred dollars? So what manufacture would give up the opportunity to offer a better sounding headphone (read: sell more headphones) at the marginal extra cost of a better cable?
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PirateIce
232
Aug 9, 2018
Its a good word to understand as you take a more objective approach to comparing things, I do hope you will move away from people talking without experience and judge things more scientifically, otherwise you will continue to think even HDMI cables are all the same... and that your new 4k monitor is broken lol
PirateIce
232
Aug 9, 2018
Yes thats a reasonable assumption of the baseline except we have not established WHICH "stock cable" is being refered to, and even if there was only one, I would have to ACTUALLY HEAR THIS CABLE OR RUN SOME MEASUREMENTS TO DETERMINE OBJECTIVELY THE DIFFERENCES. Maybe you get the theme of my replies from this one?
SchmittAB
0
Aug 25, 2021
Someone, ANYONE, convince me that a cable could actually be worth this kind of money.
Victorfabius
105
Oct 15, 2021
We listen to audio with gear, not to the gear itself. Subtle point, I know, but an important distinction.
”to fully out you, I’ve taken the class from Dick Thayler at Cornell University on decision making and all the biases you cite…”
His name is Dick Thaler, though his academic publications will have him under Richard. This is interesting, because he’s worked with Daniel Kahneman who is a huge name in cognitive bias world (psychological side, anyway), and with whose work I’m a bit more familiar. Thaler’s work (and with Kahneman, no less) seems to encompass bias and decision making heuristics within economics. Did his class stick to that, or did it cover and apply course material beyond the scope of economics?
What did you learn in that class about decision-making and bias?
This is yet another opportunity to show what you know and/or provide an alternate definition for what cognitive bias is, so that you can help me learn.
”…you’re completely missing the point…”
You have the opportunity here to demonstrate that, rather than to simply say “you’re wrong because I say so”, which is where we’re at now. Instead: Elucidate. Share an article. I read the one you linked, which is about Dr. Thaler after his award of the Nobel Prize in Economic Sciences (Kahneman has received the same award, though I have not previously encountered his work related to economics). I’ll read more, too. Show me what the correct, non-perverse translation actually is.
You might even be able to change my mind.
Soix
17
Oct 16, 2021
Victorfabius“We listen to audio with gear, not to the gear itself. Subtle point, I know, but an important distinction.”
No, it’s not subtle, it’s just fundamentally wrong and is the essence of what this hobby is all about. Have you tried to listen to recorded music without gear? Kinda tough, eh? Because the music signal passes through electronics, speakers, headphones, etc. the signal IS being affected by it, so it’s simply not possible to just remove the gear from the equation and is, IMO and IME, precisely what makes this hobby so interesting and fun. You and I clearly come from different planets with regard to audio, and although we may agree on certain theoretical principles we apply them completely differently here. Over my years of listening along with the number of reviews I’ve read and written over those years I’ve come to the realization that you can’t 100% replace practice with theory and vice versa — both are useful and necessary. I’m not diving into any more bias/decision-making theory here because it just won’t be productive given how differently we view the nature of audio reviews (among other things), but if you continue to want to disregard reviews like these here because you consider them fatally affected by bias or biases that’s your prerogative. I’m on the other side of this and find a lot of interesting and useful information contained in these reviews. So it goes...
Zarathustra
72
Aug 12, 2020
I feel like this is just snake oil. Stock cables conduct electricity just fine.... Impurities do not degrade sound unless they're significantly affecting conductivity. Though, I suppose the placebo effect is real...
ElectronicVices
2937
Aug 14, 2020
In 6 years that account has bought exactly nothing... don't feed trolls my friend.
rastus
1391
Aug 14, 2020
ElectronicVicesI should know better, raising Seeing Eye Guide puppies, one of the key words is “ignore”, mostly used for squirrels and such, I will apply here, thanks;)
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Sherwood
93
Aug 8, 2018
I could not buy a factory HD800 cable replacement for this price, and I've broken two of those. Cardas has a long reputation of quality in an industry that is legitimately filled with fly-by-night cable manufacturers of low build quality. Cardas makes mechanically and electrically sound cables with good terminations, and stands behind them with a generous warranty you know you'll be able to honor. Unlike most other companies, they should still be here in 10 years.
For me, I buy it to solve a problem. My cables are getting between me and my enjoyment in listening to music. $200 is a fair price to solve that problem, and with Cardas you know it's done right without comparison shopping or fretting.
For me, I buy it to solve a problem. My cables are getting between me and my enjoyment in listening to music. $200 is a fair price to solve that problem, and with Cardas you know it's done right without comparison shopping or fretting.
PirateIce
232
Aug 8, 2018
SherwoodThere is so little confusing about cardas, its not like they just buy wires and twist them up for you, they make the copper wire themselves as far as I know and even that became highly sought after for other cable makers and yet theyve always just had a "high" price while almost every other high end cable maker has astronomical prices especially on a short run item like a headphone cable, and it's well terminated??!? But for sure, if you are on a budget and dont need a great cable yes of course there are cheaper cables with decent reliability, the point is if you want something better, with a lifetime warranty, these are really affordable HIGH QUALITY cables, not budget cables, to compare them with a 30 dollar hit or miss cable is stupid. These compare well against OTHER several hundred to thousand dollar cables, if thats not anywhere near your budget no one is suggesting you NEED these. Man, just ranting because people seem to love to abuse any company that brings quality to a lower price bracket, scare them away and then all you WILL have is snake oil cables between fifty and five hundred dollars... gr8.
RaidBoss3d
70
Dec 9, 2017
SurgicalGo make a reddit post about it on r/headphones so you can all circle jerk over it
Calaverasgrande
1486
Aug 3, 2018
"Cross-field layer geometry"
They didn't use the word quantum so I wont be buying this particular snake oil.
AngelaCM
26
Aug 3, 2018
CalaverasgrandeDanggit. I'll see if we can edit the description to add that. Thanks for the heads up! :)
bding
271
Sep 22, 2021
What is it with overpriced custom cables and using absolutely excessive amounts of exposed heatshrink? Do people think that looks good, or makes it nicer to use?
Maeb
12
Feb 13, 2018
I think now I'm ready to make a review. First of all, I bought this cable to replace a broken cable for my HD600. Before my cable broke I was skeptical about cables making sound differences on headphones but I got one from ebay for 43 dollars from a brand called venus audio which made my headphone sound less detailed on both ends and more "mid centered", raising the volume of my amp "solved" the issue but I didn't like the quality of the connectors on the cable so when I saw this drop I joined immediately, for curiosity most. And I'm not disappointed this cable looks much better the connectors are much better too, this is also the length I was looking for and the sound.. Oh my.. the sound is just as excellent as the stock cables!! I know this is not what people is looking to read on reviews of this type of products but after hearing a worst than stock cable for me is such a relief as I blind bought this one.
But! (and there is a big but haha) How the other cable sounded worse and why this doesn't sound better than the stock cable? Well a cable can make a difference in sound when it changes the total impedance of the headphones, the stock one is already to low, so lower impedance cable doesn't really make an audible difference for most of us but when the impedance is higher it's much more noticeable.
On some headphones and IEMs cables can affect the sound in a good way (there are graphics that shows volume changes in specific frequencies without affecting the others) but for the HD600 I don't think it's needed, what this headphone really need is a short and reliable good quality cable.
Maybe in the future if a get to try the stock cables again I may hear a very very small difference but for now I'm totally happy with what this cables are.. A robust well constructed nice looking cable.
Keep enjoying music!
Calaverasgrande
1486
Aug 3, 2018
that’s a solid question. Silver is a better conductor than copper, gold is not as good as copper or silver , but doesn’t tarnish. AFAIK there is no inherent time or frequency dependent difference between copper, gold and silve. The impedance difference is only significant at extraordinary lengths.
RayF
22219
Aug 5, 2018
MaebUpgrading for the purpose of a stronger/more durable cable makes sense when and if that need exists. Upgrading for "looks" is a mater of personal taste. However, as you've discovered, upgrading to improve the sound (over the stock cable supplied) turns out to be a fools errand (@tholt).
The fact that Cardas doesn't say their cables make your headphones sound better, it's to their credit!
The fact that Cardas doesn't say their cables make your headphones sound better, it's to their credit!
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