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Hueston
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Feb 19, 2015
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"the audiophile-grade copper cables offer incredibly high reproduction accuracy while the gold-plated terminals feature low connection impedance"
Monster Cables' marketing department is at it again.... I'm sure CEntrance is a reputable audio company but putting a 300$ msrp on cables that probably costs 5 dollars to manufacture at MOST is ridiculous. What is "audiophile grade copper" and since when was 8ft of copper so expensive? You can find similar and better quality pre made cables at a fraction of the cost. Better yet, make them yourself, you can source better materials for that price and make them the length you want. For shame massdrop and CEntrance, it really makes me feel like i am walking into a Best Buy.
Feb 19, 2015
Ogen_the_Matic
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Feb 19, 2015
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Oh but they utilize "patented MultiBraid technology"! So...that's good... Right?
Feb 19, 2015
CEntrance
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Michael Goodman
Feb 19, 2015
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No no no -- not 5 dollars to manufacture! Not even close! There are 7 separate insulated wires inside every cable. Each wire serves different frequencies. There is this thing in Physics called "skin effect" that has bass frequencies travel in the middle of the wire and treble frequencies travel towards the edge of the wire. We are actually creating separate bass and treble wires to allow the frequencies to get there without interference. It's an important difference from standard cables and it becomes quite clear once you plug these in. And stuffing 7 stranded insulated wires inside every cable (14 per channel, 28 per stereo pair) is very difficult, so it's nowhere near $5 to make.
Of course, you don't have to buy expensive equipment. Some people still use their 1980's walkman and are very happy :)
Feb 19, 2015
Hueston
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Feb 19, 2015
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Look at all that snake oil...
Feb 19, 2015
RoaroftheTiger
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Feb 22, 2015
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To All concerned; the " skin effect ", is real. That and other properties, were published in a tutorial series on 'Transmission Lines' (5-6 ? issues), in the Audio Engineering Society's Journal. This was during the early '80's as Monster's machine and Others (notably Sandy Gross) were kicking - up a lot of noise. While at Polk Audio, Gross championed the use of " cobra cable". Intended, for Speaker use. It was a highly braided cable who's exterior appeared to have a snake - like pattern; caused by the weave of the various strands of alternating Green and Clear insulation of the copper wire. Due to this purposeful weave; It had a Very High - Capacitive load. At the time, Polk had excusive rights to this Japanese Import ( the Land of Audio Excess; where they may try to improve they sound quality; by Any means necessary ! Have you ever seen a Japanese 'Hi - Fi / Audio magazine ? The extravagant photography alone , explains why each , in that U.S. will cost about $40 an issue ! ... but I digress) Although they induced Fireworks, with some Amps NOT fond of the High Capacitance Loads. And even after His success, at Polk, then Definitive, and now 'Golden Ear'. He still insists, They bring out greater Mid to High Frequency Definition, in most speaker designs. The Construction alone verses fancy materials; Can make very audible differences. In making ' Q ' ... It may all be in the sauce. But, finding the right balance( yes, subjective and in many cases euphonic, at best), is an Art, as well as a Science. It's more likely, in a DIY situation; Many, may never attain the "ideal balance" for their own speakers (which include; It's "crossover" and It's complimentary amplifier) .... forget one's that are truly a Universal fit, without compromise. But arming yourself with that knowledge of the past; will serve you well.
Feb 22, 2015
weggs
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Feb 25, 2015
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How do you manage to have different frequencies utilize different wires within the cable when the whole lot are connected through one banana plug at each end? Isn't this exactly why speakeon connections exist?
I'm not hating either- I'm genuinely curious. I built a pair of Linkwitx Lab lx521, and had to use several cables in the interest of keeping frequencies separate. I didn't think this was possible
Feb 25, 2015
rspkt
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Nov 12, 2015
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Could not have said it better myself. Shame on you Massdrop for starting to pitch snake oil on your website.
Nov 12, 2015
mullidan
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Mar 31, 2016
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My question exactly. How can you go from 1 -> many without a device to filter the input into their respective frequency channels? Maybe its a wire thickness (resistance) thing??? So, a lower frequency prefers to travel on a lower resistance wire which would create the "filter" ?
Mar 31, 2016
fasc
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Apr 1, 2016
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Small correction: It is not called "skin effect", but rather "skinning your customers" approach...:-)
Apr 1, 2016
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