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Where are these boots made?
These are made in Indonesia. It makes wonder why that info is not readily available in the description.
Indonesia has great shoemakers. The Jalan Sriwijaya craftsmen are renown for their quality. Many big Japanese fashion brands contract them to make their shoes. However, these are most certainly not from Jalan Sriwijaya, otherwise it'd have been made known because that's a big selling point.
I've handled and tried these boots before in at a tradeshow in Jakarta. While they are of decent quality, they will never replace my Red Wing, Oak Street, or even my more affordable Thorogood boots.
Having Horween CXL and a nice design is one thing. Having the experience and skills to put everything together in a cohesive and immaculate package is another. Less visually prominent things like fit, arch support, structure, welt quality and a myriad of other small but crucial details seem to be lacking here. If you've a pair of Red Wing boots, try them side by side with these and you'd immediately feel the difference.
If you really like the looks of this, and have the funds to spare - then go for it. It's a decent pair of boots. However, you need to be able to make an informed decision. Which is the reason why I'm making an effort to comment.
If you're buying this under the illusion that it's made in the USA, then you're being mislead. If you're buying this thinking that it's as good as or better than the benchmark that is Red Wing, then you're being mislead.
Your mileage may vary. I'd skip this because while cheaper than a pair of Red Wing, it's still $200. I'd rather save up and invest more one really good pair. Something that has a stellar service record. A pair with a proud, storied and transparent lineage/providence.
Perhaps the Massdrop staff can enlighten us with more details on the precise origin, and the working conditions of the 'workshops' in Indonesia.
Very insightful and logical. Save for red wings or 1000 mile on sale
Thanks for your comments. I was seriously contemplating getting one but I guess I’ll get another pair of red wings instead
Agreed, if you want Red Wings then you should definitely get Red Wings. They're great.
Just to be clear, I don't think we ever implied that these are made in the USA (they're made in Indonesia of US leather) or were some sort of equivalent shoe (they're different in build, material, style, etc).
Ian I know a little random - have there been any internal murmurings or polls I missed about MTO RM Williams boots? They have a cult following and and shipping them from Australia is a PITA. They are very attractively priced for the quality and they'd stand nicely above Chevalier's build/fit/finish. My favorites are their buckle boot, and their Macquorie in a screwed sole both in "calf leather".
I don't think we have anything going there yet, but you should create a poll for us - that will be a good place to start :)