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Elrick
2105
Nov 24, 2015
For the idiot naysayers, understand that Realforce is a 100% owned Japanese entity and for them to allow a foreigner to design one of their key-sets is a one in a million chance for anyone.
Because they've seen matt3o's work everywhere they decided to take him on. This final design was chosen in amongst themselves, who happen to be ultra conservative when it comes to any key-set design.
So don't pile crap onto matt because he has given them a chance to upgrade their key-sets and who knows what that will lead into the future. Proud of the fact that I own virtually all his designs and will continue to own more of his valued work.
Anyone coming here to tyre-kick this Group Buy shall get my steel capped size 16s wedged up their arses.
Kinaesthetic
74
Nov 25, 2015
ElrickTopre specifically asked him for something that was new, and unconventional, and unconservative of a design. This design is anything but that. The legends look awful and the colorway can literally be achieved with the current RF sets out on the market if you really wanted to do so. Just unoriginal overall.
That, compounded with the fact that in his actual interest check thread on GH, he had a whole bunch of ideas that he proposed to others. Many of which WERE original colorways and really cool designs. Something that couldn't be made with the existing RF sets on the market. And he chose to do this one, without really anyone's feedback. Right out of the blue.
And it doesn't help that most enthusiast Topre users are on HHKB/FC660Cs, over the Realforce (unless you are talking about business users, which won't be ordering this for their keyboards). Which alienates a huge portion of the Topre userbase right off the start. BECAUSE this design is so polarizing and requires specific patterning of the caps, you can't really adapt this keyset to those boards.
Matt3o had the chance to make a set that wasn't polarizing to many others eyes. Something that could be fully loved by many, like Granite, Hyperfuse, or SoWaRe. Something along those lines. Something that is adaptable to many different Topre keyboards. And instead went with a colorway that not many people like. And because of that, not many people are going to purchase this, which is going to show Topre that there is no interest in special keysets, which defeats the entire purpose for Matt3o developing these. All because of a really honest to goodness stupid decision to use SS as the colorway.
So go ahead, try and kick that steel toed boot up people's arses for speaking out the truth about this keyset. Praise his work where it is due. And give crap for his work where it is due. People make wrong decisions, and giving them constructive criticism helps them make better decisions in the future.
romevi
688
Nov 25, 2015
KinaestheticI don't think you were following the thread closely. He also had a thread on DT. He had other options that he sent to Topre, but they didn't approve them. When he was brainstorming other ideas, someone on DT mentioned Skull Squadron, so Matt3o decided to try that one. Lo and behold, Topre liked it. Along the way, Matt3o was hopeful with other compatibility because Topre made it seem like the set would support Leopold and HHKB boards. It wasn't until recently that we found out Topre didn't want to support other layouts after all. Topre is very restrictive and probably wants to keep it for Realforce only at the moment to support sales of their own boards.
Elrick
2105
Nov 25, 2015
KinaestheticRubbish the numbers speak out for themselves because more Realforce Keyboards are sold WORLDWIDE than any HHKBs, get that straight first sunshine.
Second if you think you could do better than why haven't you fronted up with your designs then?
Yeah the tyre kickers a rearing their tiny, ugly, little heads to bitch and whine on something that is far better looking then their own standard crapola key-sets, sitting on their HHKBs.
Really pathetic having losers chime in about someone's work, when they themselves couldn't pick any colours out from a Bunnings store ; )
roboticus
27
Nov 25, 2015
KinaestheticNicely said Kinaesthetic, i agree 100%. Put me in the business user camp who won't use this colour set on their Realforce. Btw, I own about 5 Realforce boards (I don't like HHKB or 60% layouts) and have previously purchased 2 full sets of coloured keycaps and an anniversary edition 87U. So if I'm not in the target market, then who is? I was going to buy a set just to show support for more keycaps being produced and to reward Matt3o's work- but realistically what i'd end up with is a keyset that sits in a box never to be used. It will be very unfortunate if the end result of this is Topre thinking the market for keycaps does not exist... they could have just re-relased their blank coloured sets and sold 10x as many.
Elrick
2105
Nov 25, 2015
roboticusSame here in ownership of dozens of RF's and two Anniversaries but still doesn't stop me from owning more.
Another thing of note copying any other colour-way produced either by SP or GMK won't win any awards especially when the companies that own those designs decide to sue anyone wanting to use it.
It's always easy to rip off someone else's design but you're putting the client into trouble later on when someone decides to seek compensation and restitution.
Matt3o had done well here in making a colour-way that will look far better in real life than in these illustrations because that has always been the way he works.
Every colour connoisseur thinks they know better until the final design is delivered. Then those same detractors go away, contributing nothing at all and their names disappear into nothingness. But Matt3o stands alone in producing something that lasts which some are crazy jealous of. Maybe look into your own selfish hearts and examine your own pathetic need to kick someone for doing something, compared to most here who are content to sit on their lazy arses and complain incessantly.
roboticus
27
Nov 25, 2015
Elricksorry if honest feedback hurts your feelings
matt3o
2752
matt3o
Nov 28, 2015
roboticusI respect everybody's opinion, but some of the assumptions of some of the comments are simply not true.
esoomenona
71
Nov 30, 2015
ElrickIt's a wonder you haven't died from asphyxiation shoving [hamburger] after [hamburger] down your throat.
Elrick
2105
Dec 1, 2015
esoomenonaBetter than you [yowzers] your Mother's [flowers] on a continuing basis ; )
Nothing worse than noobie scum who think they know someone that well to start calling them names and whatnot.....hehe.
romevi
688
Dec 1, 2015
ElrickSurely you know who esoomenona is? Banned on GH?
Anyway, this is fun to watch.
Elrick
2105
Dec 2, 2015
romeviDon't know, don't even care about any arsehole wanting to bring down any Group Buy.
Those are the type of people that bitch and moan then try and bring down others for their own selfish reasons. Never participates in anything but always there to piss on everyone else.
That is the sort of shit stain that needs to be bleached out of existence ; )
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