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Idontkno
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Feb 27, 2016
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These are $20 each on amazon.
Feb 27, 2016
Isles
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Mar 31, 2016
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IdontknoDo not buy FOUR binders at a $19.95-$25.00 price point on Amazon or eBay! They are all counterfeit binders made in China! Check the reviews on the FOUR 2.0 on Amazon. Many people, including myself, received a shoddily made knockoff from an Amazon third-party seller. The counterfeiters went to great lengths to copy the packaging and style of the FOUR, but only with the lowest quality materials. The pages are miscut, do not hold sleeved cards, tear easily, and (to add insult to injury) are filled with cardboard dust and paper scraps from the manufacturing process. The different cover material (basic plastic) and the lack of the "Made in Italy" press stamp on the back cover are dead giveaways. It appears that a lot of large gaming resellers on Amazon were duped into buying huge quantities of counterfeit FOUR binders and they have been desperately trying to offload them. I noticed a number of new eBay stores that have sprung up solely to sell FOUR binders at a $19-$25 price point.
Mar 31, 2016
Hova
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Apr 2, 2016
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IslesYep, I made the mistake of buying 3 of them from amazon at the $20 price point. They are definitely knock offs, however it seems the ones I got are in much better shape than the ones most people get. Mine only have some slight miss cuts in a few spots. Good enough to warrant keeping to use as trade binders until they break. I definitely will not be buying more of them however. Until I am convinced I can buy the real deal from somewhere besides here or a local game store, I will pass along to all my friends that anywhere besides massdrop sells fakes.
Apr 2, 2016
Isles
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Apr 2, 2016
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HovaNice to hear that you at least got a usable binder or two. As mentioned in my post, it wasn't just the pocket cuts that were off on the one I received; I was able to tear a pocket with only the very lightest pressure (say, wiggling a card in a little more forcefully than normal), and there was a bizarre mix of shredded cardboard and paper dust on the inside and outside of all the portfolio pages. I also highly doubt that the page backings are acid and PVC free like you would expect with an UltraPro, Monster, or Legion binder. I'd be hesitant to store unsleeved cards in the knockoffs as they could eventually become fused with the pages, over a very long period of time of course.
Apr 2, 2016
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