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Bad.hombre
69
Sep 2, 2020
Sound changes? Frequency chart to give us some idea? Not the first time we've seen an attempt at a more comfortable pad for the Meze... the larger one that ships with the noir (in addition to the original) changed the signature in a negative way for most people (TMMV). If this statement is true there should be some sort of quantifiable/audible change: "Hand-tested by engineers at both companies, these earpads feature soft, supple sheepskin wrapped in dense, slow-rebounding memory foam. Their shape and material composition not only optimize comfort—they increase isolation and soundstage, too." Pad rolling changes the signature, sometimes only a little, sometimes a lot. Some specific description (both companies perfectly capable of measuring the changes) would be nice before DROPping $55 on a product with no reviews would be nice.
Bykovovich
162
Sep 2, 2020
ArjestinLooks like the change with the Dekoni pads exaggerates the change with the included second pad.
Bad.hombre
69
Sep 3, 2020
ArjestinThanks for the link. Very helpful. Now I just need the inner dimensions (to see if its bigger on the inside) for basic ear comfort. I went to the Dekoni website as well. None listed. For context, I'm a fan of the Meze Noir, but wish I could wear it a little longer. Its not perfect but an excellent headphone for the price. Wasn't a big fan of the sound of the second pad.
Bykovovich
162
Sep 3, 2020
Bad.hombreWouldn’t that mean the Dekoni pads are a bad fit then?
Bad.hombre
69
Sep 3, 2020
BykovovichThat is my thinking... I was trying to be nice, but yeah, if you don't think the Meze's need any extra high bass or low mids (which is where the graph seems to truly diverge (made a bit easier to see taking into account the charts are matched at 300hz for comparison purposes)) then this probably isn't for you. Maybe I'm misreading it, and graphs don't always tell the full story, but yeah, probably not for me. Still weird that there are no inner dimensions, given a major gripe for a lot of people is the (inner) size of the original pads.
yanamj29
1
Oct 1, 2020
Bad.hombreThe second pad are the smaller ones?
Bad.hombre
69
Oct 1, 2020
yanamj29The second set of pads that Meze created for the 99 were actually the larger, in response to many users finding the original pads too small (basically large on-ear for many.) The larger pads were intended to address this. The Noirs that I bought came with both, and while the larger ones were slightly more comfortable, I felt that the signature lost a bit of its magic (a little bit of a mid-bass hump and slightly more sucked out mids if I recall, but its been a while.) Again, YMMV. Some clearly prefer the larger pads, although from my readings here and elsewhere that is a minority opinion. The good news is that I got on the chat with the Dekoni people yesterday and they let me know the interior dimensions. Wouldn't you know, they added it to their website today. So... According to both manufacturers websites, here are all the relevant Interior dimensions:
  • Meze manufactured pads:
  1. Larger 64 mm height x 45 mm width x 23 mm depth: ±1mm
  2. Small    61 mm height x 44 mm width x 21 mm depth: ±1mm
  • Dekoni Pads
  1. 63 mm height x 47 mm width x 22 mm depth

TLDR: The Dekoni split the difference between the small and large pads from Meze, in terms of height and depth, but are slightly wider than both. - B
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