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RayF
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Aug 25, 2018
This is how they sound in black and white:
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rclose
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Aug 27, 2018
RayFNice! Looks like we have a similar setup.
Any personal recommendations on balanced cables for the HE4XX to Jot?
RayF
22232
Aug 27, 2018
rcloseNone at present. Got burned on the Van Damme balanced cable drop several months back (poor quality/workmanship) but for the short while I owned them, I didn't notice ANY difference in sound quality, using a balanced cable, in combination with the 6XXs. When the 4XXs arrived a month later, I replaced their very short, stock cable with a longer, fairly inexpensive cable I found on Amazon--and again, NO DIFFERENCE in sound quality.
So, it's not that I'm against balanced cables, or upgraded cables in general (I bought the Jot in hopes of using the balanced output), it's just that I'm not sure money tossed in that direction will yield what we're all looking for:improved sound quality.
I'm aware other folks feel differently, but at this point, color me skeptical!
rclose
10
Aug 27, 2018
RayFThanks for the feedback!
Like you, I bought the Jot with the desire to run fully balanced in mind. With the 6XXs, I converted my stock cable to balanced (that cable was pretty easy to convert - it is unclear to me if the stock HE4XX cable can be easily converted). The Jot is good, so I don't really think I can tell a difference in objective quality running the 6XXs balanced or unbalanaced, but I do know that (objectively) they can be driven harder run balanced (per the Schiit specs).
After getting the HE4XXs, I was a bit underwhelmed with overall audio run at typical listening levels for me. Once I really cranked up the volume (high gain, about 1200) I felt like I was getting close to the sound that these headphones can really produce. So, my curiosity is, can I drive them harder (without blowing out my eardrums) running balanced, or is volume proportionally related to power output (i.e., single ended or balanced, would the volume need to be the same at the driver to get the same sound signature?) Someone has probably answered that question here already, but I am shooting from the hip a little. I really like the HE4XX, but I am finding they need to be *louder* to sound good to me, particularly in the lower frequency range. So, that is ultimately why I was curious about running them balanced - trying to decide if it is worth the money to explore that option.
I could also just be being dense here - I'm fairly new to the domain.
RayF
22232
Aug 27, 2018
rcloseWell it's not an unreasonable question to ask, but I don't know the answer (but don't worry--around here, there's never a shortage of answers and opinions to any given question or statement--yours should start showing up in about ten seconds!).
Meanwhile, as to the 4XXs, I actually like them a hair better than the 6XXs. When I finally swop out to the 6XXs I can't really point to any deficiency in sound quality, but when I put the 4XXs back on, I feel like I'm closer to the music, but not necessarily hearing better music.
I listen at various levels, and I turn all of 'em up when I especially like this or that song--but I don't go out of my way to really blast out my eardrums either. I'm glad I own both of pairs, and I haven't given up the idea of balanced cables entirely, but I'm in no particular hurry to become MD's resident crash-test dummy either!
Mlcousi
328
Sep 19, 2018
RayFRay, did you get in on the 58X's?
RayF
22232
Sep 19, 2018
MlcousiNo I didn't. Thought about it, but in the end I figured I was pretty much covered with what I had so far. How about you?
Mlcousi
328
Sep 19, 2018
RayFI love them! Haven't really plugged the 6XX's in since I got them.. I just joined this 4XX's drop today..
RayF
22232
Sep 19, 2018
MlcousiWell I don't like to say it in public, but my 6XXs have pretty much been collecting dust since I got my 4XXs! Be very interested in your comparison of the 58Xs and 4XXs--that might influence my next purchase ;- )
Mlcousi
328
Sep 20, 2018
RayFI can't wait to give them a listen..
RayF
22232
Sep 20, 2018
MlcousiYou're gonna like 'em!
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