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Elbert
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Feb 5, 2020
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Hey everyone, Holy Pandas are back! There will be a few small changes, but they sound and feel more or less the same. A few things to note about this round: 1) Switches will be unlubed from the factory. 2) The switch housings will be made with new tooling. 3) The switch housings will be made of POM and are slightly lighter in color. 4) The switches come in packs of 70, 90, or 110. Smaller or larger packs will not be offered. We are aware of the rough patch that is frequently found on the slider rail of the bottom housing and we are working with the factory to see if it can be smoothed out.
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Feb 5, 2020
Bitbat
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Feb 6, 2020
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Thank you
Feb 6, 2020
sabotender
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Feb 6, 2020
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Of course
Feb 6, 2020
Columbo
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Feb 6, 2020
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Nice.
Feb 6, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 6, 2020
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An insignificant amount. No more than if you were to harvest Halo stems and assemble Holy Pandas yourself.
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Feb 6, 2020
nihalw
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Feb 6, 2020
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Did they always have through hole SMD LED compatibility? or is that new as well? pictures show the light being altered by the color of the housing. Has anything been changed in this production run?
Feb 6, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 6, 2020
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They are physically compatible. The housing design is unchanged (still opaque) and will block light, but the switch housing won't physically interfere with SMD LEDs.
Feb 6, 2020
KingXF88
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Feb 6, 2020
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Will these be back in stock after the 23 days ends?
Feb 6, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 6, 2020
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Yes. This is a pre-order. We will have units in-stock at a later date, but they will be more expensive than the pre-order pricing.
Feb 6, 2020
KingXF88
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Feb 6, 2020
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Alright, cool. Also am I able to film these switches now or no?
Feb 6, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 6, 2020
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Film them as in record them?
Feb 6, 2020
Hungpham
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Feb 6, 2020
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hi can you tell me how heavy each packs is after packaging? if not can you tell me the weight of 1 switch alone ? sorry for my bad english.Thank you very much.
Feb 6, 2020
KingXF88
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Feb 6, 2020
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As in like adding switch films for less wobble and better sounds
Feb 6, 2020
KingXF88
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Feb 6, 2020
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Switch films for less key wobble and better sounds
Feb 6, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 6, 2020
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I don't see why not.
Feb 6, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 6, 2020
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1.5g per switch
Feb 6, 2020
Elrick
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Feb 7, 2020
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These switches are those that value no RGB junk shining through. There are already loads of cheaply made see through plastic housing available hence why contaminate this switch design for the idiot RGB sickness fad? Sometimes serious typists only need the perfect switch to work with here because sometimes, earning money is far more important than indulging with juvenile addictions like RGB tomfoolery.
Feb 7, 2020
GraphTheory
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Feb 7, 2020
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You seem mad at people's personal preferences. Perhaps go outside, breathe some fresh air, enjoy some nature.
Feb 7, 2020
BeHumble
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Feb 7, 2020
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No matter if a switch housing is clear. The physical feedback of the keystroke is all that matters to any true fan of luxury keyboards. I have been running a large, successful law firm for the past 20 years. When your work is of the utmost importance, only the best tool will do. I refuse to use anything less than a capacitive buckling spring design. I don't have time to be concerned with trivial discussions regarding the merits of RGB.
Feb 7, 2020
shree
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Feb 7, 2020
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What was the material of the first run of these switches.
Feb 7, 2020
kikashy
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Feb 7, 2020
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Im new here, so these switches need to be lubed before use?
Feb 7, 2020
krio
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Feb 7, 2020
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Don't have to be. Most switches you've ever used were most likely not lubed. Lubing changes how they feel. I would say most people would prefer it, but some don't. I personally like lubed linear switches, but prefer unlubed tactile switches because every lubed tactile usually feels less tactile than before, but that's just my experience. Lubed Topre is another story, but for MX switches that's my preference. I'm sure others will have different ones.
Feb 7, 2020
Lormaniac
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Feb 7, 2020
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I would like to say good job on listening to feedback!
Feb 7, 2020
kbpigeon
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Feb 7, 2020
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FYI, you can't apply switch films to Holy Panda switches. There is not enough clearance between the top and bottom housings.
Feb 7, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 7, 2020
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Thanks for the clarification. @KingXF88
Feb 7, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 7, 2020
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Polycarbonate top housing and nylon bottom housing.
Feb 7, 2020
Columbo
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Feb 8, 2020
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Thanks for making them available.
Feb 8, 2020
shree
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Feb 8, 2020
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Thank you.
Feb 8, 2020
KingXF88
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Feb 8, 2020
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Thanks for the information!
Feb 8, 2020
dombro
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Feb 10, 2020
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Mechanical keyboard are world of preference. That's why we have so many options to choose from!
Feb 10, 2020
spaghetti_and_meatballs
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Feb 10, 2020
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Ironic username much? Lol
Feb 10, 2020
hallo1990
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Feb 13, 2020
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will you be able to return them if u preorder them now when u get them in june?
Feb 13, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 13, 2020
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Feb 13, 2020
heldpizza
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Feb 14, 2020
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What changes to the tooling have been made? Does the stem pole still strike the bottom of the housing when bottoming out?
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Feb 14, 2020
dombro
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Feb 14, 2020
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I made some of these retooled holy pandas with new invyr and they are really same as old ones from people comments. I didn't try the old ones, though i ordered mint yok panda. That new plastic doesn't change a lot
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Feb 14, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 14, 2020
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New molds for the housing. The stem is still the same Halo stem that hits the bottom of the housing when bottoming out.
Feb 14, 2020
lisinge
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Feb 15, 2020
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Will the issue with the burrs in the bottom housing be fixed for this run? It makes the switches that has the burr unusable. Sources: https://drop.com/buy/invyr-panda-mechanical-switches/reviews/2572181?utm_source=linkshare&referer=57ZL48 https://drop.com/buy/invyr-panda-mechanical-switches/reviews/2574361?utm_source=linkshare&referer=57ZL48
Feb 15, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 15, 2020
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They are not unusable if they have the "burr". That is an overstatement. Functionality is unaffected by the presence of the rough patch on the slider rail. That said, we are working with the factory to see if it can be smoothed out. I will provide confirmation one way or another.
Feb 15, 2020
lisinge
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Feb 15, 2020
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Thanks for your quick response. People claim that it makes the linear switch a tactile one. In the holy panda case it might not be as drastic as its already a tactile switch, either way if you feel the burr i would call them unusable. It might however be that people are exaggerating. Will you have the confirmation before the drop ends? I'm looking to buy some but I'm afraid that the burr will make me disappointed
Feb 15, 2020
lisinge
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Feb 15, 2020
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Also, can you confirm that the housing is not manufactured by durock/JWK?
Feb 15, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 15, 2020
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They are definitely exaggerating. I put a Halo stem into a Panda housing that had the rough patch, but omitted the metal leaf contacts so that it was effectively a linear switch. I'm not convinced I could really feel a reduction in smoothness. It's conceivable that I'm simply not very sensitive to it, but it was a far cry from becoming a tactile switch. We've already spoken to the factory about it and they are looking into it. I should have confirmation before the pre-order period ends. And yes, I can confirm that the housings are not manufactured by Durock.
Feb 15, 2020
lisinge
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Feb 15, 2020
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Thanks for your explanation and replies, i really appreciate you taking the time.
Feb 15, 2020
Kzwai
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Feb 20, 2020
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are we likely to see massive delays due to the china situation?
Feb 20, 2020
Domas
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Feb 20, 2020
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SOUND TEST OF HOLY PANDAS WITH POM HOUSING: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUNjoY_YcHg
Feb 20, 2020
Columbo
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Feb 21, 2020
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Music to my ears. Thank you for doing this. Can't wait to get them.
Feb 21, 2020
Cyclone
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Feb 28, 2020
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Any news on the burrs?
Feb 28, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 28, 2020
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The factory said they'd polish the tooling so parts don't come out with that rough patch. I'm awaiting confirmation from the factory that it's been addressed.
Feb 28, 2020
Revolutioxa
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Feb 28, 2020
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Is there a substantial difference in keyfeel between the POM and polycarb/nylon housings or is it just a lubrication longevity thing?
Feb 28, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 28, 2020
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Personally, I don't feel a difference. For what it's worth, I'm also someone who isn't particularly sensitive to scratchiness in switches.
Feb 28, 2020
Elbert
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Feb 29, 2020
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The factory has confirmed that the tooling has been modified to address this issue.
Feb 29, 2020
Columbo
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Feb 29, 2020
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Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
Feb 29, 2020
wowremy
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Mar 6, 2020
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The stem is supposed to hit the bottom fool. That's literally why people put the halo stems in housings that dont support it. For the tactile leaf and the sound (early bottom out). If you dont like the bottom out on the center pole, put your Halo stems in Sky housings with the bottoms retooled and drilled all the way through.
Mar 6, 2020
AmrNada
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Mar 16, 2020
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Hello Elbert, I know that the estimated shipping time is 22 of June, but I would like to ask if there is any update that switches would ship internationally soon? I already saw on YouTube that many people got these already.
Mar 16, 2020
Elbert
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Mar 16, 2020
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We have sold these switches before and that is why they are out in the wild. The June 22 ship date is still applicable for this batch.
Mar 16, 2020
AmrNada
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Mar 16, 2020
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Well, nothing to do but waiting then :). Thanks for the fast reply!
Mar 16, 2020
HaVoCTzu
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Mar 27, 2020
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Do you have suggestions for barebones that will work with the holy pandas, or where to look? I'm new to this but ordered 2 sets of holy pandas. There was a keyboard with holy pandas at the drop building in SF that impressed me, do you know what that one was? Thanks!
Mar 27, 2020
Elbert
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Mar 27, 2020
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Anything that is MX-compatible will work, but do know that Holy Pandas fit a little tighter in plates than most switches. If you go with a keyboard with hotswap sockets, be sure to align the pins and push the switch straight down when installing. Because they'll require some more force to get them to snap into the plate, the risk of damaging the pins and/or sockets on the PCBA is greater if installation is done improperly. The keyboard in the office with Holy Pandas was likely the Tokyo60. Was it dark green? https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-tokyo-keyboard-tokyo60-keyboard-kit
Mar 27, 2020
HaVoCTzu
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Mar 27, 2020
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Yeap, went through my photos and it matches. Thanks!
Mar 27, 2020
curb0
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Apr 1, 2020
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What about actuation happening after bump. Did you fix this?
Apr 1, 2020
HeyBoard
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Apr 4, 2020
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can u just shipping from china to china ?
Apr 4, 2020
IceyVortex
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Apr 22, 2020
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Will there be a transparent housing version of this switch one day?
Apr 22, 2020
Elbert
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Apr 22, 2020
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No current plans, but certainly a possibility.
Apr 22, 2020
Milkteapokemon
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Apr 24, 2020
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Could you buy these from a walk-in store in hk
Apr 24, 2020
GeT_TrOlL
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Apr 26, 2020
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my friend there is absolutely no shop on hong kong that will sell a custom keyboard parts you can only buy aftermarket keycaps and nothing else so your best bet is buying them from drop if you interested, i know that because i try to find the parts i need to build a keyboard and i cant find any of them
Apr 26, 2020
Allsurrender
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May 2, 2020
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Try visiting Thicthock? It’s a hk based vendor. or you could hit me a DM on reddit with same ID.
May 2, 2020
psychephylax
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May 5, 2020
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I find that difficult to believe, you can find all sorts of obscure electronic components/things in Sham Shui Po on Aplieu Street. Don't forget the computer centers in Wan Chai and Sham Shui Po as well. There's likely a shop that sells all sorts of switches, stabilizers, etc...
May 5, 2020
GeT_TrOlL
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May 5, 2020
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I can tell you there are absolutely none shop that sell custom keyboard or keyboard parts in Hong Kong you may able to find some cherry switch but that's all, and also I can't even find two shop that sell hakko fx 888d and u saying aplieu Street sell all stuff, man you cannot be more wrong, don't trust me I just walk the entire street to hunt down the solder iron and turns out its way cheaper to buy it off Internet and ship it back to Hong Kong
May 5, 2020
Allsurrender
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May 6, 2020
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Rent in Hong Kong is way too highly to maintain a shop dedicated in selling custom stuff while the community here is very small. There are stores for gaming keebs and prebuilds which they don’t sell switches and stabs. And apliu street usually only have those cheapo soldering iron (coz that what ppl prefer), after all some consider it’s flea market.
May 6, 2020
psychephylax
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May 7, 2020
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I am well aware of rents in Hong Kong :) Would you believe there are a number of shops dedicated to fountain pens? For example Hop Cheong in Central (I honestly don't know how they managed to stay open). I have not spent time looking for keyboard shops in Hong Kong as I haven't been back recently so I can't tell you where to go and look beyond the usual places already mentioned but even if something isn't available in Hong Kong, Shenzhen is not that far away (It's on my "to go" list) and they definitely would have some variety in their offerings.
May 7, 2020
Allsurrender
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May 7, 2020
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There’s always online shop for keyboard stuff. Thicthock is based in HK afaik. fountain pens are like symbols for high-class businessman, I think that’s the reason it can survive. Keyboard stuff on the other hand...its very hard to even justify it for my relatives and friends that I’ve spend over 2k$hkd for a unbuild board.
May 7, 2020
xqht
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May 9, 2020
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Hi, does this set eligible for Welcome to Drop $20 credit? I don't see it apply in my cart when try to check out.
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May 9, 2020
NotABot
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May 11, 2020
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Fountain pen stores here carry a good range of USD1-5K pens, and are a much more established hobby amongst older people with money. I've been to Hop Chong a bunch of times (just passing by and looking, fountain pens are not really my thing). Keyboards are for young guys, tech geeks, less money and certainly zero prestige in the hobby. There are very few semi-serious keyboard stores in Hong Kong which will carry a small range of Ducky, Realforce or Filcos, and a handful of meh boards like Razer. Lots of general PC stores which might have a single Razer or a Ducky. I can think of two decent stores offhand, one in Shamshuipo and one in Wanchai. No places to find parts like switches, PBCs or stabs. Best I've seen is keycap sets- a couple of coloured Realforce sets at a store in Shamshuipo, and maybe a couple of boxes of Tao Haos somewhere. GetTroll and Allsurrender have it right- Shamshuipo is a great place to buy a POS Hakko 936 clone from China, but there's only one store (Wecl, upstairs) on the entire street that sells real Hakko soldering stations. At about 2x the price of what they go for in the US (220V Hakkos are much pricier than 120V versions). I know this because I've been to every store on both sides of the street looking for a Hakko. Shenzhen is also a wash for good mech boards- it's generally piles of generic, rebadged garbage with funny names and tacky LEDs up at SEG Plaza. Maybe there's some gem of a place there, but it will be buried in an avalanche of cheap tat stores selling exactly the same range as the place two doors down from them. I've been to SEG a bunch of times- great place to buy parts to repair your phone, not so great if you're a niche keyboard geek. There is (or was) a good Alienware showroom there, and it's a good place to see Mi stuff that's not available overseas. If you want keyboards in Asia, Japan's the place to go. I've seen nice boards at places like Bic, but admittedly never looked for a serious enthusiast place as there's way better stuff to do in Japan than look for keyboards :)
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May 11, 2020
Fenya
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May 13, 2020
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Why would you buy these from a walk in store when you can get it direct from source? The shipping is reasonably cheap as well. Even Taobao is selling these at mark up lmao you can expect the same for a physical store.
May 13, 2020
abrahamas
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May 24, 2020
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Seems you have the time to give a rather long reply explaining why you don't have time to give replies
May 24, 2020
viciouz081314
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May 26, 2020
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Why not allowed to shipped to the Philippines?
May 26, 2020
Elbert
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May 26, 2020
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Probably issues with couriers. You could use a freight forwarder, though.
May 26, 2020
m4jp6tp6
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May 27, 2020
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Do you foresee any delays with the June 22 shipping promise?
May 27, 2020
Elbert
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May 27, 2020
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For the first batch? Currently, no, but circumstances surrounding global logistics can and do change daily.
May 27, 2020
MrMocha
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Aug 21, 2020
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this aged well....
Aug 21, 2020
anthonyvann
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Feb 23, 2021
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im confident that he meant film as in applying switch films to the switches
Feb 23, 2021
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