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Holy Pandas are back! There will be a few small changes, but they sound and feel more or less the same. A few things to note about this round:
1) Switches will be unlubed from the factory.
2) The switch housings will be made with new tooling.
3) The switch housings will be made of POM and are slightly lighter in color.
4) The switches come in packs of 70, 90, or 110. Smaller or larger packs will not be offered.
We are aware of the rough patch that is frequently found on the slider rail of the bottom housing and we are working with the factory to see if it can be smoothed out.
An insignificant amount. No more than if you were to harvest Halo stems and assemble Holy Pandas yourself.
Did they always have through hole SMD LED compatibility? or is that new as well? pictures show the light being altered by the color of the housing. Has anything been changed in this production run?
They are physically compatible. The housing design is unchanged (still opaque) and will block light, but the switch housing won't physically interfere with SMD LEDs.
Will these be back in stock after the 23 days ends?
Yes. This is a pre-order. We will have units in-stock at a later date, but they will be more expensive than the pre-order pricing.
Alright, cool. Also am I able to film these switches now or no?
Film them as in record them?
hi can you tell me how heavy each packs is after packaging? if not can you tell me the weight of 1 switch alone ? sorry for my bad english.Thank you very much.
As in like adding switch films for less wobble and better sounds
Switch films for less key wobble and better sounds
These switches are those that value no RGB junk shining through.
There are already loads of cheaply made see through plastic housing available hence why contaminate this switch design for the idiot RGB sickness fad?
Sometimes serious typists only need the perfect switch to work with here because sometimes, earning money is far more important than indulging with juvenile addictions like RGB tomfoolery.
You seem mad at people's personal preferences. Perhaps go outside, breathe some fresh air, enjoy some nature.
No matter if a switch housing is clear. The physical feedback of the keystroke is all that matters to any true fan of luxury keyboards.
I have been running a large, successful law firm for the past 20 years. When your work is of the utmost importance, only the best tool will do. I refuse to use anything less than a capacitive buckling spring design.
I don't have time to be concerned with trivial discussions regarding the merits of RGB.
What was the material of the first run of these switches.
Im new here, so these switches need to be lubed before use?
Don't have to be. Most switches you've ever used were most likely not lubed. Lubing changes how they feel. I would say most people would prefer it, but some don't. I personally like lubed linear switches, but prefer unlubed tactile switches because every lubed tactile usually feels less tactile than before, but that's just my experience. Lubed Topre is another story, but for MX switches that's my preference. I'm sure others will have different ones.
I would like to say good job on listening to feedback!
FYI, you can't apply switch films to Holy Panda switches. There is not enough clearance between the top and bottom housings.
Polycarbonate top housing and nylon bottom housing.
Thanks for making them available.
Thanks for the information!
Mechanical keyboard are world of preference. That's why we have so many options to choose from!
Ironic username much? Lol
will you be able to return them if u preorder them now when u get them in june?
What changes to the tooling have been made? Does the stem pole still strike the bottom of the housing when bottoming out?
I made some of these retooled holy pandas with new invyr and they are really same as old ones from people comments. I didn't try the old ones, though i ordered mint yok panda. That new plastic doesn't change a lot
New molds for the housing. The stem is still the same Halo stem that hits the bottom of the housing when bottoming out.
They are not unusable if they have the "burr". That is an overstatement. Functionality is unaffected by the presence of the rough patch on the slider rail. That said, we are working with the factory to see if it can be smoothed out. I will provide confirmation one way or another.
Thanks for your quick response. People claim that it makes the linear switch a tactile one. In the holy panda case it might not be as drastic as its already a tactile switch, either way if you feel the burr i would call them unusable. It might however be that people are exaggerating.
Will you have the confirmation before the drop ends? I'm looking to buy some but I'm afraid that the burr will make me disappointed
Also, can you confirm that the housing is not manufactured by durock/JWK?
They are definitely exaggerating. I put a Halo stem into a Panda housing that had the rough patch, but omitted the metal leaf contacts so that it was effectively a linear switch. I'm not convinced I could really feel a reduction in smoothness. It's conceivable that I'm simply not very sensitive to it, but it was a far cry from becoming a tactile switch. We've already spoken to the factory about it and they are looking into it. I should have confirmation before the pre-order period ends. And yes, I can confirm that the housings are not manufactured by Durock.
Thanks for your explanation and replies, i really appreciate you taking the time.
are we likely to see massive delays due to the china situation?
Music to my ears. Thank you for doing this. Can't wait to get them.
The factory said they'd polish the tooling so parts don't come out with that rough patch. I'm awaiting confirmation from the factory that it's been addressed.
Is there a substantial difference in keyfeel between the POM and polycarb/nylon housings or is it just a lubrication longevity thing?
Personally, I don't feel a difference. For what it's worth, I'm also someone who isn't particularly sensitive to scratchiness in switches.
The factory has confirmed that the tooling has been modified to address this issue.
Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
The stem is supposed to hit the bottom fool. That's literally why people put the halo stems in housings that dont support it. For the tactile leaf and the sound (early bottom out). If you dont like the bottom out on the center pole, put your Halo stems in Sky housings with the bottoms retooled and drilled all the way through.
Hello Elbert, I know that the estimated shipping time is 22 of June, but I would like to ask if there is any update that switches would ship internationally soon? I already saw on YouTube that many people got these already.
We have sold these switches before and that is why they are out in the wild. The June 22 ship date is still applicable for this batch.
Well, nothing to do but waiting then :). Thanks for the fast reply!
Do you have suggestions for barebones that will work with the holy pandas, or where to look?
I'm new to this but ordered 2 sets of holy pandas.
There was a keyboard with holy pandas at the drop building in SF that impressed me, do you know what that one was?
Anything that is MX-compatible will work, but do know that Holy Pandas fit a little tighter in plates than most switches. If you go with a keyboard with hotswap sockets, be sure to align the pins and push the switch straight down when installing. Because they'll require some more force to get them to snap into the plate, the risk of damaging the pins and/or sockets on the PCBA is greater if installation is done improperly. The keyboard in the office with Holy Pandas was likely the Tokyo60. Was it dark green?
Yeap, went through my photos and it matches. Thanks!
What about actuation happening after bump. Did you fix this?
can u just shipping from china to china ?
Will there be a transparent housing version of this switch one day?
No current plans, but certainly a possibility.
Could you buy these from a walk-in store in hk
my friend there is absolutely no shop on hong kong that will sell a custom keyboard parts you can only buy aftermarket keycaps and nothing else so your best bet is buying them from drop if you interested, i know that because i try to find the parts i need to build a keyboard and i cant find any of them
Try visiting Thicthock? It’s a hk based vendor.
or you could hit me a DM on reddit with same ID.
I find that difficult to believe, you can find all sorts of obscure electronic components/things in Sham Shui Po on Aplieu Street. Don't forget the computer centers in Wan Chai and Sham Shui Po as well. There's likely a shop that sells all sorts of switches, stabilizers, etc...
I can tell you there are absolutely none shop that sell custom keyboard or keyboard parts in Hong Kong you may able to find some cherry switch but that's all, and also I can't even find two shop that sell hakko fx 888d and u saying aplieu Street sell all stuff, man you cannot be more wrong, don't trust me I just walk the entire street to hunt down the solder iron and turns out its way cheaper to buy it off Internet and ship it back to Hong Kong
Rent in Hong Kong is way too highly to maintain a shop dedicated in selling custom stuff while the community here is very small. There are stores for gaming keebs and prebuilds which they don’t sell switches and stabs.
And apliu street usually only have those cheapo soldering iron (coz that what ppl prefer), after all some consider it’s flea market.
I am well aware of rents in Hong Kong :)
Would you believe there are a number of shops dedicated to fountain pens? For example Hop Cheong in Central (I honestly don't know how they managed to stay open). I have not spent time looking for keyboard shops in Hong Kong as I haven't been back recently so I can't tell you where to go and look beyond the usual places already mentioned but even if something isn't available in Hong Kong, Shenzhen is not that far away (It's on my "to go" list) and they definitely would have some variety in their offerings.
There’s always online shop for keyboard stuff. Thicthock is based in HK afaik.
fountain pens are like symbols for high-class businessman, I think that’s the reason it can survive.
Keyboard stuff on the other hand...its very hard to even justify it for my relatives and friends that I’ve spend over 2k$hkd for a unbuild board.
Hi, does this set eligible for Welcome to Drop $20 credit? I don't see it apply in my cart when try to check out.
Fountain pen stores here carry a good range of USD1-5K pens, and are a much more established hobby amongst older people with money. I've been to Hop Chong a bunch of times (just passing by and looking, fountain pens are not really my thing). Keyboards are for young guys, tech geeks, less money and certainly zero prestige in the hobby.
There are very few semi-serious keyboard stores in Hong Kong which will carry a small range of Ducky, Realforce or Filcos, and a handful of meh boards like Razer. Lots of general PC stores which might have a single Razer or a Ducky. I can think of two decent stores offhand, one in Shamshuipo and one in Wanchai. No places to find parts like switches, PBCs or stabs. Best I've seen is keycap sets- a couple of coloured Realforce sets at a store in Shamshuipo, and maybe a couple of boxes of Tao Haos somewhere.
GetTroll and Allsurrender have it right- Shamshuipo is a great place to buy a POS Hakko 936 clone from China, but there's only one store (Wecl, upstairs) on the entire street that sells real Hakko soldering stations. At about 2x the price of what they go for in the US (220V Hakkos are much pricier than 120V versions). I know this because I've been to every store on both sides of the street looking for a Hakko.
Shenzhen is also a wash for good mech boards- it's generally piles of generic, rebadged garbage with funny names and tacky LEDs up at SEG Plaza. Maybe there's some gem of a place there, but it will be buried in an avalanche of cheap tat stores selling exactly the same range as the place two doors down from them. I've been to SEG a bunch of times- great place to buy parts to repair your phone, not so great if you're a niche keyboard geek. There is (or was) a good Alienware showroom there, and it's a good place to see Mi stuff that's not available overseas.
If you want keyboards in Asia, Japan's the place to go. I've seen nice boards at places like Bic, but admittedly never looked for a serious enthusiast place as there's way better stuff to do in Japan than look for keyboards :)
Why would you buy these from a walk in store when you can get it direct from source? The shipping is reasonably cheap as well. Even Taobao is selling these at mark up lmao you can expect the same for a physical store.
Seems you have the time to give a rather long reply explaining why you don't have time to give replies
Why not allowed to shipped to the Philippines?
Probably issues with couriers. You could use a freight forwarder, though.
Do you foresee any delays with the June 22 shipping promise?
For the first batch? Currently, no, but circumstances surrounding global logistics can and do change daily.
im confident that he meant film as in applying switch films to the switches