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Guys, just because these are a re-work of a discontinued model doesn't mean they automatically sound dated or worse than the new ones. People paid $1500 for the ETHER C back in 2015. They were the TOTL models. Three years is not a very long time for headphones.
Did your HD 650 started sounding bad when the HD 800 came out? Did the HD 800 S started sounding bad when the HD 820 came out? Etc. Headphones are one of the best money spends hobby-wise IMHO. Why? In the obsolescence...sense, they never become obsolete like computers, cameras and other software-driven electronics do. God bless!
Good sound is always good sound, we cannot upgrade our ears!
That may be true, but do you want to go back after making the step up and discovering that there really are better sounding headphones out there? I know that I haven't listened to my LCD2 much at all since getting an LCD3 a few years ago - not that the LCD2 isn't good, it's awesome but the LCD3 is a level or two up in awesomeness.
And no, headphones really do become obsolete - just try and listen to headphones from the 70s, 80s and early 90s...a lot of them sound horrible compared to today's standards.
I do agree though that we have passed a point in the development of audio/headphones where high fidelity has already been attained at mass market volumes and prices. The HD600 & HD650 are probably the most convenient route markers for this, they're old (20 & 15 years?) but were continuously produced till today - they're still the benchmark at which the sound quality is at an acceptably audiophile level. Yet despite their competence, there is room for progress, hence the introduction of the HD660S.
imo the original C sounds better than Flow C... but flow open better than Ether open...
You ever try some decades old stax? They're still mind blowing to this day.
They would be one of the exceptions, as there always are. I did say 'a lot of', instead of 'all' when referring to old headphones.
Though I must say, I haven't heard really old Staxes but I've listened to the Stax SR-009 - which, even after 8 years, I still consider to be one of, if not the most resolving headphone out there. I also haven't heard the old Orpheus from the mid 90s, which reviewers think is the last word in resolution and clarity in a pair of headphones, but there you go. Exceptions.
I agree. I bought the Ether C when everyone went for the Flow. Got a good deal just under 1,000 $. Listening to jazz and classical for 80% I tend to like the Ether C more. Have heard the Flow on multiple occasions.
There are some older Sennheiser flagships that still sound great today and pretty comparable to their modern releases. I own an HD540 and an HD430 and to my ears, I enjoy them better than the HD800. That's subjective though. The HD540 and HD430 were 70s-80s design but still excellent in today's music production. You can find a nice pair of these old flagships for under $200. Even less if you're lucky.
Still using my V6 (from 1997) daily (15+ hrs) which I got for $100 or less...