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Drop + Peter Carey Firecracker Neck Knife

Drop + Peter Carey Firecracker Neck Knife

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Our first-ever neck knife, the Firecracker is the ultimate sidekick. Designed by Peter Carey, it's made with premium steel and comes in eight different styles.

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JonasHeineman
5987
Aug 21, 2019
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Hi everyone, Unfortunately, we have closed the pre-order and canceled all transactions for the Firecracker under threat of legal action. Pete Carey has been making knives with bottle openers in the spine - like the one in the photo below - since 2001, but we learned this morning that DPx Gear filed a patent for a similar mechanism in 2012. We received a cease-and-desist order from DPx Gear earlier today and we’ve canceled this project to avoid a protracted legal engagement. We’d rather use our time working with designers; adding to the community instead of our legal budget.   Pete wanted to make sure that everyone knows he feels badly that we can’t deliver these to you. We really respect Pete, and we hope you’ll have another chance to own one of his knives. We’re in conversations with Pete regarding a new design, and you check out his existing work at http://www.careyblade.com/ or upcoming shows like G11 and the CA Custom Knife Show. Thanks for your interest in this project, we’re sorry it won’t be possible to make this one happen. As always, Carry On -- Jonas
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[Pete Carey "Firefly" - 9/12/2001]
Aerocanthus
0
Aug 25, 2019
JonasHeinemanThis is how Patent Trolls win. there is clear historical prior art, should fight and counter sue for legal expenses. the experts at fr.com should be able to help you erase the troll.
eugeeeeenekwon
12
Aug 22, 2019
sigh...this is exactly the kind of small-mindedness and territoriality we don't need any more of in the knife community. i used to point my finger at knife companies who made similar products and cry "COPY!" at whichever one i liked less -- but i've come to realize that there are such things as (1) convergent evolution in design and (2) history of which i am ignorant. if dpx is so proud of their design, they shouldn't be surprised that others would employ similar designs to achieve the same purpose. and if dpx knew their knife history, they'd realize they weren't the first to come up with the idea of incorporating a cap lifter into the spine of their blades -- they'd know that peter carey's been doing this for years, and they'd have the humility to respect his craft and bark less about their own. furthermore, if they're going to threaten lawsuits against drop and peter, why not also attack emerson, whose waves have been used to pop open beers since their inception? why not also sue spyderco for their tropen, or cold steel for any number of the spine-pronged knives they make? it's a real shame this necker can't come into existence. dpx's behavior has erased any interest i once had for obtaining and/or reviewing their knives (which haven't shown any real innovation in years...).
Rudolph
279
Aug 22, 2019
Don't own anything from DPX , and their bottle opener is a bit less pronounced, but they are Italian made Niolox blades so there seems to be more factors here than just a bottle opener here.
Hatuletoh
850
Aug 22, 2019
I have no use for a neck knife as anything tied around my next drives me completely insane, and when there's a bit of weight to it the discomforting effect is exponentially magnified. That said, however... Dear Mr. and Ms. Pelton of DPx Gear: this is by far the most cheese-dicked, chicken-shit move I've ever witnessed within the knife community, and surely between one creator and another. No one who would have bought a reasonably-priced, (Mass)Drop-made and Mr. Carey-designed knife would have done so to the exclusion of buying one of the over-priced, sharpened bits of banality you call a knife. In fact, the exact opposite might have actually happened. You probably aren't aware of this, but knife consumers quite frequently own more than a single knife, and often purchase more expensive knives that have features they've already tried and appreciated in less expensive types. Regardless though....what a wanker move. Seriously, seriously wanked. It pleases me to be certain that my lack of ownership of anything DPx will never change. A bit petty, perhaps? Most definitely, but still no worse than the second-most petty thing going on around here. Regards, Hatu.
PNWNative
448
Aug 22, 2019
HatuletohActually, it is not the worst, but close. Pelton had his own discussion area on Blade Forums, and proceeded to argue, attack, threaten and otherwise engage in negative communication resulting in Blade Forums shutting it down. Evidently Pelton doxed some people whose comments he didn't care for, resulting in a donnybrook: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/dpx-gear-what-exactly-happened.818916/
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Hatuletoh
850
Aug 23, 2019
PNWNativeDuuuuude...WTF? Posting he wife's personal info too? Suggesting his fans should make use of it to harass the woman and her husband? Even in 2011 we knew that the only time that was an acceptable thing to do--if ever--was when dealing with the worst of the worst sort of scum. Like, I don't know...maybe a convicted child molester trying to skip out on his court-mandated monitoring? Criticism of your knife doesn't really meet that very stringent standard. I guess it's not too surprising, considering Pelton's biography--found front and center on the main landing page of the DPx website, btw--claims he participated in 26 "wars", and talks about his daughter watching him "disappear again into the mists of battle", or something along those lines. I'm not saying the guy has never been in combat, but I didn't know there had even been 26 wars in the world over the last 20-30 years. Regardless of the details, it's hilarious and sad that a dude who claims such levels of badassery has an ego so dainty it can be dealt near-mortal wounds by the metaphoric spitball gun that is an online critic. Then,11 following his initial anger, Pelton--the person with infinitely more clout in a discussion of knives, no matter any personal shortcomings--totally lacked the self-discipline and situational awareness to pull back, cool down, and let the issue fade away, or at least ignore it so that he didn't become the author of his own unflattering tabloid drama. But nope. He instead decided to employ the Internet conflict tactics of a hormonal, adolescent girl who saw one of her supposed female friends flirting with the boy whom she herself liked. Amazing. Pathetic. Hilarious. It sure does put a cease-and-desist letter into context. Thanks for pointing out that thread to me.
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Aotearoan
190
Aug 21, 2019
So why not just go ahead and make this knife without the bottle opener cut out? - you would probably sell more anyway. The DPx knives are some of the ugliest looking, overpriced mall ninja Noddy knives out there, no decent knife maker would want to be confused with them.
Brett919
128
Aug 22, 2019
AotearoanI've had a little time to research the steel and I'm good for one of these minus the bottle opener - at the same price. The patent thing makes me want one more now.
Jer1660
8
Aug 21, 2019
This is just a little petty on DPX’s part...
Bladeshots
21
Aug 21, 2019
Gotta say that patenting something that was never that entity’s original work or design is a d!ck move, but is the modern American way. Kershaw did blade spine bottle openers twenty years ago and custom makers have done them for decades as well. At least I have another production knife brand I will choose to never own...
GoodTimes
114
Aug 21, 2019
I hate you DPX Gear, Carey is my favourite maker of all time and you patent something he came up with? Absolute BS!!
KennyS
138
Aug 21, 2019
I just received an email announcing this drop an hour ago, in that time frame the drop was cancelled due to legal action?
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grubetown
2
Aug 21, 2019
Main practical differences between drop point and sheeps foot? Thanks
JonasHeineman
5987
Aug 21, 2019
grubetownGood question - sorry you won’t get to learn the different from this knife but worth knowing anyway. Basically, drop point has a belly and sheepsfoot/wharncliffe have straight(er) edges. Drop point tips are likely to be thicker and more reinforced bc they are closer to the spine whereas sheepcliffe/wharnfoot come to a point at the narrow edge of the bevel. Drop are good for skinning, straight edges better for push cuts and working on a board or surface. Maybe some other members can jump in, and there’s a lot more info out on the webz about this.
grubetown
2
Aug 21, 2019
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Duuuuude...WTF? Posting he wife's personal info too? Suggesting his fans should make use of it to harass the woman and her husband? Even in 2011 we knew that the only time that was an acceptable thing to do--if ever--was when dealing with the worst of the worst sort of scum. Like, I don't know...maybe a convicted child molester trying to skip out on his court-mandated monitoring? Criticism of your knife doesn't really meet that very stringent standard. I guess it's not too surprising, considering Pelton's biography--found front and center on the main landing page of the DPx website, btw--claims he participated in 26 "wars", and talks about his daughter watching him "disappear again into the mists of battle", or something along those lines. I'm not saying the guy has never been in combat, but I didn't know there had even been 26 wars in the world over the last 20-30 years. Regardless of the details, it's hilarious and sad that a dude who claims such levels of badassery has an ego so dainty it can be dealt near-mortal wounds by the metaphoric spitball gun that is an online critic. Then,11 following his initial anger, Pelton--the person with infinitely more clout in a discussion of knives, no matter any personal shortcomings--totally lacked the self-discipline and situational awareness to pull back, cool down, and let the issue fade away, or at least ignore it so that he didn't become the author of his own unflattering tabloid drama. But nope. He instead decided to employ the Internet conflict tactics of a hormonal, adolescent girl who saw one of her supposed female friends flirting with the boy whom she herself liked. Amazing. Pathetic. Hilarious. It sure does put a cease-and-desist letter into context. Thanks for pointing out that thread to me.
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