Click to view our Accessibility Statement or contact us with accessibility-related questions
Showing 1 of 660 conversations about:
Will
8470
Chief Product Officer
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
Hey Friends,  Announcing the DROP + Sennheiser HD 8XX.  This headphone is the result of hundreds of thousands of community posts and four years of collaboration between the teams at DROP and Sennheiser.  Analyzing discussions around the HD 800S, we saw clear mandates from the community around bass extension and midrange balance. The HD 8XX incorporates two novel changes to accommodate those mandates.  Where the HD 800S uses a single resonator in front of the driver, Sennheiser created a new resonator system for the HD 8XX, enabling bass extension down to 10hz (+5db @ 10hz vs 800 S) by changing the resonant properties of the housing. Sennheiser’s team, lead by Jermo Koehnke, reached the bass solution pretty quickly, but our goals for the midrange proved demanding... bordering impossible. After significant research, Sennheiser reached a solution; altered acoustic impedance in the transducer's dampening material to smooth the FR from 2.5k to 8k.  This means the transducer in the HD 8XX is unique, it’s a new ring driver. Launch pricing for the HD 8XX is $1100 and you’ll receive $200 worth of drop points (20,000 points) with purchase.  For future units, HD 8XX pricing will increase to $1200+. This is a pre-order, so you can cancel any time between now and shipping, and this product qualifies for Drop Studio 30 day satisfaction returns, so if you don’t like the sound in November, you can send it back for a full refund.  Note: Replies to this post are for product questions, not VAT and logistics.
Feb 18, 2021
oldschoolrhythm
0
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillJust to clarify this only comes with a singled ended plug and no balanced cable?
Feb 18, 2021
Suopermanni
79
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillHello Will, just checking I understand things correctly but payment is upfront BUT cancellation can be done anytime between now and shipping? Also, does Drop Studio 30 day satisfaction guarantee extend to international orders?
Feb 18, 2021
Will
8470
Chief Product Officer
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
Feb 18, 2021
Kevin
5434
Outreach
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
Feb 18, 2021
Suopermanni
79
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
KevinThanks Kevin!
Feb 18, 2021
theMillerDave
188
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillOk, Will - now you have to tell us if the teaser silhouette image was actually a photo of the HD8XX or if it was an artist rendition (a live-stream of me eating a hat rides in the balance)
Feb 18, 2021
eskamobob1
6
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillHow does the increased treble and further 1.5k drop effect the imaging and stage of the cans vs the 800s?
Feb 18, 2021
postwarscars
1367
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
theMillerDaveI know you and I are best buds, but it was definitely based on the main image up top (or at least one very close to the same angle). Just remember: a good friend will always tell you when you're right or wrong, because they love you!
(Edited)
Feb 18, 2021
Will
8470
Chief Product Officer
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
eskamobob1Impressions will come in over the days ahead, but in general, the combination of changes delivers treble detail beyond that of the 800, without the upper mid etch/sharpness. Take a look at the hearing sensitivity curve to get an idea for the impact of the 1.5khz dip. You want a dip there to avoid being too high energy given the higher sensitivity of hearing in that area.
Feb 18, 2021
Will
8470
Chief Product Officer
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
theMillerDaveWe used a picture, just a specific angle.
Feb 18, 2021
edahl
86
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
Will> Take a look at the hearing sensitivity curve to get an idea for the impact of the 1.5khz dip. You want a dip there to avoid being too high energy given the higher sensitivity of hearing in that area. Thanks for clearing this up. I hope to see a clearer indication of how this might impact the sound in the coming days, because to a layman like myself I mainly see a big change.
Feb 18, 2021
ptse
198
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
Will" This means the transducer in the HD 8XX is unique, it’s a new ring driver." Really!!!! Which mean this is a new headphone!!!! I always like Drop "tuned" headphone. I pre-ordered this. Is drop going to offer a balance cable specific for 8XX later?
(Edited)
Feb 18, 2021
ClemFandango711
6
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillHi Will! Any chance there were physical adjustments to the headband or clamping force? I didn't get the 800S because they just wobbled everywhere on my head.
(Edited)
Feb 18, 2021
iAmBoomerStrong
479
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillThe Drop+Sennheiser 8xx Headphones were already a great headphone and with these specialized custom changes they are truly going to be an #Awesome headphone if not the best in their class. Another great collaboration between Drop & Sennheiser. I have Stage 4 cancer so I’m going to spin the wheel of luck and pre-order a pair, hopefully I’ll be around to enjoy them in November. Once they reach the point where some are being released for the review stage, I look forward to seeing and hearing what the pros have to share about them. Boomer 🐼 🎧
(Edited)
Feb 18, 2021
RogerSL
33
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
iAmBoomerStrongCancer Sucks. Stay Strong and enjoy the music.
Feb 18, 2021
turbomustang84
156
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
iAmBoomerStrongI was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and given 6 months to live in 1998 so stay strong and you can beat the odds as well ..... Stay strong my friend
Feb 18, 2021
msq123
20
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillHey Will, thanks for making this happen and the changes to frequency curve which made it interesting for me. I placed the order and wondering if possible to fulfill European orders out of Germany where these will be manufactured instead of sending from across the pond and incurring custom charges?
Feb 18, 2021
Will
8470
Chief Product Officer
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
msq123All DROP orders ship from NJ, thank you for your support but if you have more questions about shipping or customs, best to contact support, these discussion threads are focused on the product itself.
(Edited)
Feb 18, 2021
edahl
86
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillI see that the HD 650 doesn't have the same kind of recess around 1500. Is there something specific about the HD 8XX tuning that makes this difference especially desirable? Granted, I see a few different curves for perceived human hearing going around, but it's a plausible enough reason.
(Edited)
Feb 18, 2021
Jisheng
257
Keyboard Club Member
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
edahlSo, are you still considering canceling your HD800S order to get this?
Feb 18, 2021
edahl
86
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
JishengYes, though I'll probably let it arrive and try it out, e.g. EQ the difference and A/B to see what I'd prefer for a stock tuning and wait for reviews to start rolling in. I have some time to make a decision.
Feb 18, 2021
Citylion
2
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillHi Will, I am wondering if your team as Massdrop thinks that the treble has been improved. I have heard that it is typically sort of sharp on the HD800S. Is this also your subjective assessment for the HD8XX?
Feb 18, 2021
AlbertAng
6
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
CitylionIf you see FR, treble is in fact increases.
Feb 18, 2021
zenbert
175
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillWow! Super exciting! Would love to have some subjective sampling/eval of the new headphone, but I'm onboard!
Feb 18, 2021
raansire7
1507
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
Citylion"Impressions will come in over the days ahead, but in general, the combination of changes delivers treble detail beyond that of the 800, without the upper mid etch/sharpness."
Feb 18, 2021
moorej55
20
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillWill the clamp force be the same as the HD 800s?
Feb 18, 2021
1Audiophool
56
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
raansire7Just to be clear...@citylion is asking a question regarding the 800s . You’re quoting @Will making a statement regarding the 800. FR are not the same between the two.
Feb 18, 2021
CEE_TEE
3480
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillMore extended sub-bass + decreased bass distortion?
More linear above 2kHz + more upper treble/air?  
Excited to hear this. Could be better bass than both the OG 800/800s while keeping the OG 800 soundstage…
search

Feb 18, 2021
SpencerL
2946
keeb weeb
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
CEE_TEEUsing a HD800S with a modmic wireless too :)
Feb 18, 2021
CEE_TEE
3480
Feb 18, 2021
bookmark_border
SpencerLIt's a modded HD800. Been hoping for an 8XX for a long time...
Feb 18, 2021
SpencerL
2946
keeb weeb
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
CEE_TEENice to see it's finally happening!
search

Feb 19, 2021
Inkey
53
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
WillDo you lose an detail or stage with the new frequency response? Is it a much warmer headphone compared to the HD800s?
Feb 19, 2021
Lerov
8
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
iAmBoomerStrongYou will my friend, stay strong! 💪🏻
Feb 19, 2021
Salvador_F
27
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
WillHello, I am curious about if you (Drop) or Sennheiser are going to offer out of warranty service and repair? Of course provided that the consumer is willing to pay for it.
(Edited)
Feb 19, 2021
Jisheng
257
Keyboard Club Member
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
Salvador_FWill said no.
Feb 19, 2021
edahl
86
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
JishengThat's not what has been said at all. What's been said is that customers should contact Drop with issues, not Sennheiser.
Feb 19, 2021
League544
535
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
edahlHahahahhhhhhhhahhahahahahahahhahaha you thought Drop would handle any customer service/warranty when another company can/you can? Oh my child. 😊
Feb 19, 2021
edahl
86
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
League544That is literally what they say they do and what they're doing, e.g. with my K7XX, they're refunding it. Like, you're plain misinformed and spreading misinformation.
Feb 19, 2021
theMillerDave
188
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
postwarscarsI love being wrong - we call that a learning opportunity, not necessarily a failure.
Feb 19, 2021
postwarscars
1367
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
theMillerDaveJust make sure that "learning opportunity" doesn't have an incurable disease. 😉
Feb 19, 2021
Waynerey
100
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
iAmBoomerStrongI am in the same boat as you...good luck...
Feb 19, 2021
EatMyDustbunny
1
Feb 19, 2021
bookmark_border
oldschoolrhythmThat’s absurd
Feb 19, 2021
Inkey
53
Feb 20, 2021
bookmark_border
WillHello, If possible, send a unit for review to Andrew over at headphones.com, AKA Resolve Reviews, AKA the HeadphonesShow on Youtube. He has the best, most trusted, subjective reviews. Personally, I wanted to buy this unit but decided to hold off until some of my trusted reviewers we able to get a listen first, for what its worth, of course.
(Edited)
Feb 20, 2021
Jisheng
257
Keyboard Club Member
Feb 20, 2021
bookmark_border
WillDo you happen to know when the headphone impressions will be released?
Feb 20, 2021
Bradski
44
Feb 20, 2021
bookmark_border
InkeyI mean.. I would prefer someone who is more objective in their reviews so they aren't biased. I'm assuming that's what you meant, just teasing you a bit :P But I agree, I would love to have these but need few different trusted opinions on them first.
Feb 20, 2021
Inkey
53
Feb 20, 2021
bookmark_border
BradskiYes, exactly, thank you. We don't know right, the headphone could be warmer sounding, but at the cost of that we lost some stage and resolution, or it could just amazing, headphones can be a gamble.
Feb 20, 2021
Offramp
76
Feb 23, 2021
bookmark_border
iAmBoomerStrongHey, Our boats sailing like streams but I need to drop two words on you. Mebendazole, check Government white papers (research), Fenbendazole. Just keep looking you’ll find it.
Feb 23, 2021
FlyingDutchMan
40
Feb 24, 2021
bookmark_border
WillWe are days ahead now, when can we expect the first reviews? Do the reviewers already have the headphone?
Feb 24, 2021
PandaSPUR
356
Feb 24, 2021
bookmark_border
FlyingDutchManI personally do not expect any reviews to be out before the end of this drop (23 days left), but there should be reviews out before the actual shipping date in November.
Feb 24, 2021
Xunnobi
59
Feb 28, 2021
bookmark_border
WillCan introduce shipping to Singapore? I want to get one but there is no shipping option to Singapore
Feb 28, 2021
danny87
556
Mar 1, 2021
bookmark_border
XunnobiYou can use a shipping forwarder. I'm using one to get mine to Malaysia.
Mar 1, 2021
Xunnobi
59
Mar 1, 2021
bookmark_border
danny87Thank you for the suggestion. It is my second option cause vPost is quite priceyyyy =/
Mar 1, 2021
danny87
556
Mar 1, 2021
bookmark_border
XunnobiBuyandship is quite cheap. Just that shipping takes quite long, but since it's gonna ship in November anyway, doesn't hurt to add a few more weeks for shipping.
Mar 1, 2021
Milkw
44
Mar 12, 2021
bookmark_border
WillDear Will, Can this be shipped to Singapore or Malaysia?
Mar 12, 2021
League544
535
Mar 14, 2021
bookmark_border
edahlSorry I just saw your reply now due to hectic work schedule lately. Another exception-to-the-rule argument, next? I could literally put a blindfold on and throw darts in any direction and you will find people who overwhelmingly agree with me. I’m not saying that they absolutely don’t offer it or that nobody is able to get any sort of customer service out of them, that would be BLATANTLY illegal and they’d be sued into the ground, I’m talking about the vast vast majority, including me 😄. Do you think Sears or Kmart flat out screwed everyone? No, they selectively did it until they went out of business, mark my words Drop if they continue like this are going out like Sears. I’ve predicted many companies fate by observing their customer culture.
Mar 14, 2021
tanggaming
19
Mar 14, 2021
bookmark_border
WillHow does the 20k points work? Is it usable upon pre-ordering or I don't actually get the points until it ships? Haven't ordered here in a long time and the point system was not present previously
(Edited)
Mar 14, 2021
soban.bhatti
31
Mar 14, 2021
bookmark_border
tanggamingThe points are usable right after the pre-order. I purchased the THX 789 and was able to redeem them.
Mar 14, 2021
holdincourt
3
Mar 15, 2021
bookmark_border
Willwhy am I unable to get this pre order to show shipping options to Hong Kong?
Mar 15, 2021
Xunnobi
59
Mar 18, 2021
bookmark_border
WillWhy not give current buyers who purchase on or before 19 March extra $100 points, so to entice more ppl who are on the fence!
(Edited)
Mar 18, 2021
Jisheng
257
Keyboard Club Member
Mar 18, 2021
bookmark_border
XunnobiThe price of the HD8XX is supposed to be $1200 or higher after the current period as well so there's the $100 you were asking for.
(Edited)
Mar 18, 2021
Xunnobi
59
Mar 18, 2021
bookmark_border
JishengWell, to me its just their marketing. The JVC HA-FDX1 is now cheaper than the 1st run, when their 1st run is supposed to be cheapest =) Btw I pre ordered the HA-FDX1.
(Edited)
Mar 18, 2021
jkhmonkey
95
Apr 7, 2021
bookmark_border
XunnobiThat's a great little iem. Getting the right fit is a bitch though... It's become more of a use at home hooked up to an amp iem than using it outside iem personally
Apr 7, 2021
eddiezr
107
Apr 19, 2021
bookmark_border
WillI'm in NJ. Can I just walk over to your shop and audition a pair? lol : )
Apr 19, 2021
Evshrug
3773
Community
Apr 21, 2021
bookmark_border
JishengI’m working on a write up after having a few days to listen to music and compare with my HD 800, plus I got some gaming in! Follow me, I’ll share as a community post (discussion thread has too many stickies) either today or tomorrow. LOTS of thoughts to try to condense into something short and easy to read.
Apr 21, 2021
Jessse
4
May 13, 2021
bookmark_border
EvshrugWhen are you dropping the post?
May 13, 2021
Evshrug
3773
Community
May 17, 2021
bookmark_border
JessseVoilá! Took me awhile to collect my notes (and my thoughts) to write my impressions vs the HD 800, but hopefully it’s interesting to read and at least introduces you to some music you end up liking! https://drop.com/talk/82618/hd-8-xx-first-impressions-from-an-hd-800-owner?utm_source=appshare&referer=Z2JXCA
(Edited)
May 17, 2021
View Full Discussion
Related Products