Hey Friends,
Announcing the DROP + Sennheiser HD 8XX.
This headphone is the result of hundreds of thousands of community posts and four years of collaboration between the teams at DROP and Sennheiser.
Analyzing discussions around the HD 800S, we saw clear mandates from the community around bass extension and midrange balance. The HD 8XX incorporates two novel changes to accommodate those mandates.
Where the HD 800S uses a single resonator in front of the driver, Sennheiser created a new resonator system for the HD 8XX, enabling bass extension down to 10hz (+5db @ 10hz vs 800 S) by changing the resonant properties of the housing.
Sennheiser’s team, lead by Jermo Koehnke, reached the bass solution pretty quickly, but our goals for the midrange proved demanding... bordering impossible. After significant research, Sennheiser reached a solution; altered acoustic impedance in the transducer's dampening material to smooth the FR from 2.5k to 8k.
This means the transducer in the HD 8XX is unique, it’s a new ring driver.
Launch pricing for the HD 8XX is $1100 and you’ll receive $200 worth of drop points (20,000 points) with purchase.
For future units, HD 8XX pricing will increase to $1200+.
This is a pre-order, so you can cancel any time between now and shipping, and this product qualifies for Drop Studio 30 day satisfaction returns, so if you don’t like the sound in November, you can send it back for a full refund.
Note: Replies to this post are for product questions, not VAT and logistics.
WillHello Will, just checking I understand things correctly but payment is upfront BUT cancellation can be done anytime between now and shipping? Also, does Drop Studio 30 day satisfaction guarantee extend to international orders?
WillOk, Will - now you have to tell us if the teaser silhouette image was actually a photo of the HD8XX or if it was an artist rendition (a live-stream of me eating a hat rides in the balance)
theMillerDaveI know you and I are best buds, but it was definitely based on the main image up top (or at least one very close to the same angle).
Just remember: a good friend will always tell you when you're right or wrong, because they love you!
eskamobob1Impressions will come in over the days ahead, but in general, the combination of changes delivers treble detail beyond that of the 800, without the upper mid etch/sharpness.
Take a look at the hearing sensitivity curve to get an idea for the impact of the 1.5khz dip. You want a dip there to avoid being too high energy given the higher sensitivity of hearing in that area.
Will> Take a look at the hearing sensitivity curve to get an idea for the impact of the 1.5khz dip. You want a dip there to avoid being too high energy given the higher sensitivity of hearing in that area.
Thanks for clearing this up. I hope to see a clearer indication of how this might impact the sound in the coming days, because to a layman like myself I mainly see a big change.
Will" This means the transducer in the HD 8XX is unique, it’s a new ring driver."
Really!!!! Which mean this is a new headphone!!!!
I always like Drop "tuned" headphone.
I pre-ordered this. Is drop going to offer a balance cable specific for 8XX later?
WillHi Will! Any chance there were physical adjustments to the headband or clamping force? I didn't get the 800S because they just wobbled everywhere on my head.
WillThe Drop+Sennheiser 8xx Headphones were already a great headphone and with these specialized custom changes they are truly going to be an #Awesome headphone if not the best in their class.
Another great collaboration between Drop & Sennheiser.
I have Stage 4 cancer so I’m going to spin the wheel of luck and pre-order a pair, hopefully I’ll be around to enjoy them in November.
Once they reach the point where some are being released for the review stage, I look forward to seeing and hearing what the pros have to share about them.
Boomer 🐼 🎧
iAmBoomerStrongI was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and given 6 months to live in 1998 so stay strong and you can beat the odds as well .....
Stay strong my friend
WillHey Will, thanks for making this happen and the changes to frequency curve which made it interesting for me.
I placed the order and wondering if possible to fulfill European orders out of Germany where these will be manufactured instead of sending from across the pond and incurring custom charges?
msq123All DROP orders ship from NJ, thank you for your support but if you have more questions about shipping or customs, best to contact support, these discussion threads are focused on the product itself.
WillI see that the HD 650 doesn't have the same kind of recess around 1500. Is there something specific about the HD 8XX tuning that makes this difference especially desirable? Granted, I see a few different curves for perceived human hearing going around, but it's a plausible enough reason.
JishengYes, though I'll probably let it arrive and try it out, e.g. EQ the difference and A/B to see what I'd prefer for a stock tuning and wait for reviews to start rolling in. I have some time to make a decision.
WillHi Will, I am wondering if your team as Massdrop thinks that the treble has been improved. I have heard that it is typically sort of sharp on the HD800S. Is this also your subjective assessment for the HD8XX?
Citylion"Impressions will come in over the days ahead, but in general, the combination of changes delivers treble detail beyond that of the 800, without the upper mid etch/sharpness."
raansire7Just to be clear...@citylion is asking a question regarding the 800s . You’re quoting @Will making a statement regarding the 800. FR are not the same between the two.
WillMore extended sub-bass + decreased bass distortion? More linear above 2kHz + more upper treble/air? Excited to hear this. Could be better bass than both the OG 800/800s while keeping the OG 800 soundstage…
WillHello,
I am curious about if you (Drop) or Sennheiser are going to offer out of warranty service and repair? Of course provided that the consumer is willing to pay for it.
League544That is literally what they say they do and what they're doing, e.g. with my K7XX, they're refunding it. Like, you're plain misinformed and spreading misinformation.
WillHello,
If possible, send a unit for review to Andrew over at headphones.com, AKA Resolve Reviews, AKA the HeadphonesShow on Youtube.
He has the best, most trusted, subjective reviews.
Personally, I wanted to buy this unit but decided to hold off until some of my trusted reviewers we able to get a listen first, for what its worth, of course.
InkeyI mean.. I would prefer someone who is more objective in their reviews so they aren't biased.
I'm assuming that's what you meant, just teasing you a bit :P But I agree, I would love to have these but need few different trusted opinions on them first.
BradskiYes, exactly, thank you.
We don't know right, the headphone could be warmer sounding, but at the cost of that we lost some stage and resolution, or it could just amazing, headphones can be a gamble.
iAmBoomerStrongHey,
Our boats sailing like streams but I need to drop two words on you.
Mebendazole, check Government white papers (research), Fenbendazole.
Just keep looking you’ll find it.
FlyingDutchManI personally do not expect any reviews to be out before the end of this drop (23 days left), but there should be reviews out before the actual shipping date in November.
XunnobiBuyandship is quite cheap. Just that shipping takes quite long, but since it's gonna ship in November anyway, doesn't hurt to add a few more weeks for shipping.
edahlSorry I just saw your reply now due to hectic work schedule lately. Another exception-to-the-rule argument, next? I could literally put a blindfold on and throw darts in any direction and you will find people who overwhelmingly agree with me.
I’m not saying that they absolutely don’t offer it or that nobody is able to get any sort of customer service out of them, that would be BLATANTLY illegal and they’d be sued into the ground, I’m talking about the vast vast majority, including me 😄.
Do you think Sears or Kmart flat out screwed everyone? No, they selectively did it until they went out of business, mark my words Drop if they continue like this are going out like Sears. I’ve predicted many companies fate by observing their customer culture.
WillHow does the 20k points work? Is it usable upon pre-ordering or I don't actually get the points until it ships? Haven't ordered here in a long time and the point system was not present previously
JishengWell, to me its just their marketing. The JVC HA-FDX1 is now cheaper than the 1st run, when their 1st run is supposed to be cheapest =)
Btw I pre ordered the HA-FDX1.
XunnobiThat's a great little iem. Getting the right fit is a bitch though... It's become more of a use at home hooked up to an amp iem than using it outside iem personally
JishengI’m working on a write up after having a few days to listen to music and compare with my HD 800, plus I got some gaming in! Follow me, I’ll share as a community post (discussion thread has too many stickies) either today or tomorrow. LOTS of thoughts to try to condense into something short and easy to read.