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Hi there, I hope you choose “protein leather” that’s durable for portable use. The headband and ear pads on my PM-3s (these seemed modeled after) peeled like crazy. Would really like to know these will hold up as an everyday set. At least it will be easier to replace pads than pm3.
Yea, we're familiar with the peeling issues experienced with the PM-3.
We see a TON of discussion around contact surfaces on Drop and other audiophile forums. Surface material of the pads, headband material (plus structure), etc. Plus, we're all wearing headphones like 18 hours a day, 6 days a week, so we understand the broad issues that come with wear.
The key benefit to using synthetic leather over natural leather is breath ability. Within synthetic leather, you're basically weighing breath ability against durability (higher density, more closed material structure), while considering the HUGE impact on FR. We've hit a great balance on these.
All that said, we designed Panda to avoid these issues in a more fundamental way. Where the PM-3 Earpads were not user replaceable, Panda's earpads are. The headpad material is not synthetic leather, it's a soft rubberized material (easier to clean, similar cushion-level to TR-X00 or HD800).
yeah to be fair, protein leather peels whether it's headphones or shoes or etc... Just order new pads since the decay of the pads is a pretty good measure of the wear n tear (sweat etc) you inflict on them.
True, but question had to do w Oppo PM3 that did not have a changeable headband or earpads. These were beautifully constructed headphones otherwise. It would be a shame not to have easily replaceable parts.
Is it possible that you could offer a line of sheepskin leather pads? (separately and as a paid upgrade of course)
I found that of all the "real" and "non leather leather" i have tried, those have been the best type.
Yes, just takes some time. There will be a whole world of earpads and eventually cables (that actually change the sound, oh shit) available once Panda ships.
>change the sound
The way this is written it seems like a cable could alter sound... inline DAC? What are we talking here?
Perhaps a silly question, but does listening through the passive mode charge the battery at the same time?
Nope, the 3.5 connection is totally separate from the USB-C connection
Its not a DAC, but we have a way to add passive electronics to achieve specific tuning changes.
We could make a cable that adds 5db bass, or conforms to the Harman curve.
Lookup solderdude if you want to learn about the fundamental tech,
So If I want to listen to these at home on a computer, I have no way to charge and listen at the same time? That would imply I would need to connect two separate cables to the headphone which sounds a bit silly
I had work to do today man!
The servers are back up, I had to wait half a day to read through dudes incredible analysis of the T51i I haven't listened to in months...
Seriously though, such amazing tech, I look forward to seeing the accessories.
We're experimenting with audio and charging over USB C to C, it'll likely be a stretch goal for the campaign if we can pull it off, still investigating.
Sweet! I have backed it and wouldn’t mind a delay, having it simultaneously charge while listening at home, so you can “get up and go” on your trips would be super convenient and elegant
Final question, would the headband be replaceable? I have seen reviewers partially remove them
I have two pairs, and I replaced my earpads today. It's actually really easy to replace, and the parts are very cheap. I ordered a set of new pads for around $10 on amazon, and all you need to replace it is a spludger to pop the old earpads off the frame. Then you can just run your fingers along the side and interior to detach the old earpads from the plastic frame and then wrap the new ones over it. The whole process takes maybe 5-10 minutes.
Could you replace the headband?
I ended up paying Oppo for service earpad and headband service (they sent me a set of refurbs/replacement headphones).
Still, it’s a matter of time and I’m considering buying some of those Amazon earpads while I still can.
I didn't see any way to replace the headband, so I just bought one of those wool headband covers off amazon for like $10. It wraps around the headband and snaps into place over it. Cheap and easy solution.
Will it be possible to buy spare original earpads straight from drop later on?
Or can they be purchased now through support?