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jaxtrauma
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Jul 13, 2020
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That's a hard pass for me at 120 bucks. The confusion regarding which connector type fits which iems, among other things bothers me. What is a flat 2-pin? Limited selection of iem brands, too. I have more than a dozen iems and the only cable that might fit two of them is their 2-pin cable, but I have no idea if they require 'flat' or not, and we must assume its 0.78mm. Also, why no common type MMCX? I guess I need to buy the iems supported here or look elsewhere. Periapt has good cables at good prices and you don't have to wait months for an item that's in stock. Just sayin' ;-)
1816925
21
Jul 13, 2020
jaxtraumagoogling these days aint no a hard thing eh ? https://www.effectaudio.com/iem-premium-series/standard/ares-ii-898.html FYI, no half decent cable brands ever made cables with 0.75 2pin, unless u make a custom request
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Dicloneus
61
Jul 14, 2020
jaxtraumaprobably cheaper to weave it yourself then hey? here you go. UP-OCC COPPER 26AWG by the bulk https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007390866.html oh. 1m is already $8.20 USD. multiply 1.5m by 4 = 6m = $49.20 USD just for the material itself. because it's totally reasonable to disregard the RnD that went into this product, the craftsmanship to hand-weave each cable, and maintain sustainable quality. let alone the custom Effect Audio plugs and connectors that adds to the overall aesthetics. have you talked to the Effect Audio sales reps at audio shows? (I have several times at Tokyo Porta Fest) Try asking them your very question directly if you're so inclined to know why it's priced the way it is. Still curious? buy this product and your "Aliexpress cable" you speak of to confirm. because that's the only way to know for sure whether or not the price is justified. If you can't tell the difference, throw it on the used market and continue your scoffing at those buying third-party cables from reputable cable makers. Claiming a product isn't worth the price without giving it a chance is beyond me. Also, you condescending others for taking interest in this product is already revealing your "superior attitude."
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mtrtn
31
Jul 14, 2020
DicloneusDon’t they sound the same
jaxtrauma
2104
Jul 14, 2020
Dicloneus nope, not curious, you guys must work for effect
Dicloneus
61
Jul 14, 2020
jaxtraumaplease provide evidence to support your claims sir.
Dicloneus
61
Jul 14, 2020
mtrtnthat's really up to you to decide. everybody's hearing is different.
jaxtrauma
2104
Jul 14, 2020
Dicloneus I never spoke of an ali cable, get your facts straight. I refuse to help you and your ilk any further.
Dicloneus
61
Jul 14, 2020
jaxtrauma@mtrtn please read over your comments, and reflect on why audio products suffer to thrive in North America. ever wondered why a lot of manufacturers make products exclusive to the Asian market? (ex. Shure SE215SPE/SE535se; 64Audio U4-SE; exclusive colors of Andromeda from campfire audio, etc.) maybe it's because of toxic ranters like you both, downplaying products without even trying them. blame yourself for not having the money to afford it. besides, $150USD is completely reasonable for replacement cables. it's even in the cheaper range if you look at the wide variety available on the market. This is where you start questioning whether it's worth it or not. Not at $150. Also, give this site a read. https://doublehelixcables.com/faq/ All of you love "science-y looking" documentation right?
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Dicloneus
61
Jul 14, 2020
mtrtnthat's great! saving up is definitely a good idea, especially in the current state of global economic uncertainty :)
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Inkey
53
Jul 14, 2020
DicloneusOK, relax, cables make no difference if any at all. The only way it changes the sounds is if you mess with the resistance of the cable, pumping more or less power to the driver. I mean, sure, a good cable that can carry the signal efficiently at the rated vendors specs is all you need. Anything past 100-120 is not needed unless you want length or looks. These cables are just for looks past a certain point. Their 100 dollar cable will sound just as good as their 1000 dollar cable. The trick with cables is to change the Ohm's to make the driver sound different.
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Dicloneus
61
Jul 14, 2020
Inkeythanks for the lesson. and I do agree on the theory. but things don't go according to theory in practice, hence all the speculation here. I've auditioned a number of Effect Audio products myself at e-earphone in Tokyo and Osaka. also, These cables are just for looks past a certain point. Their 100 dollar cable will sound just as good as their 1000 dollar cable. The trick with cables is to change the Ohm's to make the driver sound different. applies more to digital lines. Analog signals are affected more with material. Low rating/downplay AFTER you've tried them with a flat mindset? Sure, that's great. It's totally unfair to give anything a low rating without even giving them a chance. but please. for the love of god. reserve your claims/downplay until you've tried them. This may also be an explanation as to why monolingual English speakers have difficulties taking different perspectives of another country's ideologies. https://www.fastcompany.com/40585591/how-language-shapes-our-perception-of-reality Also, everybody's low levels of openness to experience may hint at something here (just sayin') https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2937090/ this is why there's absolutely no growth and development here in north america. everybody's completely shutting out products they cannot afford/import directly, and justifying them with overtly glorified "scientific facts" and "documentation" rather than judging by their very own flippin ears. availability heurisitic, mere ownership effect, etc etc. The natural world is explained by science (and even then, that's very limited knowledge), not the other way around. Parisiens don't need a course meal if their only focus is on filling their stomachs right? also, everybody's mistaken about the whole concept of the placebo effect. It's only relevant if you're doing a review of the unit. "Placebo effect" is when YOU YOURSELF PERCEIVED change. Since hobbies are all about THE SELF, who cares what people say? You yourself experienced change, and you liked it. End it there. and hence why I laugh at the north american audio community, but also cry in the corner at the same time because of it. The absolute lack of choice here in Canada is ridiculous. I'll pass on the Ares II, but if there's ever a Drop for the Eros II+, I'm totally down for that.
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Dicloneus
61
Jul 15, 2020
Would add "most," and also those with limited budget since people who's got money to spend wouldn't even enter these discussions. but yea. that's pretty much the gist of it. Thanks :D I do see several people using Effect Audio cables here, and much surprise to absolutely nobody, they're all asians. Personally, I find North Americans to be more of purists that lacks personality (what sounds "good" in a general sense, which is why literally everyone is OBSESSED with FR graphs) rather than the Asian counterparts who're really good at tailoring things to fit their personal tastes. Kinda makes sense why SuperBestAudioFriends cult exists... pretty counterintuitive though from the perspective of individualistic/collectivistic culture dimension
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1816925
21
Jul 15, 2020
InkeyIsn't that the whole point of Tuning? Anything changes the sound, including something as simple as resistance, forms part of your listening experience. If I like how a gold cable sounds, any cheap cables probably won’t do the same trick for me.
mtrtn
31
Jul 15, 2020
DicloneusKeep whining baby boy, go back to Timmy hortons and ask for triple frappe Abbo with the whipped cream because if you pay 8 dollars for coffee that costs 70 cents to make it will taste better
Dicloneus
61
Jul 15, 2020
mtrtnI'm completely happy handdripping my own locally roasted beans along with Cartems donuts, thank you.
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