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SDante
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Jun 26, 2019
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That is an oversized clever, not a machete. A machete is curved to help cut, a straight blade puts uneven pressure and will jam.
A machete is good a kukri is better, this thing is a decoration.
SDante
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Jun 29, 2019
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FixallI've heard of and used them, they are more like an axe than a knife. You don't chop or slice with them though, you hammer them in like a wedge. Good for making shingles.
If they were selling them, is be interested if they were good.
I'm assuming you mean one of these though.
Fixall
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Jun 30, 2019
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SDanteThat's exactly what I'm talking about and it's the basis for the design for machete hybrid like this and the Buck 108 Froe. It allows you to baton with it like a standard froe, while giving you you the added versatility of being able to swing it like a machete in a pinch.
SDante
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Jul 2, 2019
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FixallThe whole idea of a froe is that you DON'T swing it. You like it up carefully and bash it with a mallet.
If you used it like a machete you would lose the accuracy and fine work a froe provides.
A froe is not good as a machete and a machete is not good as a froe.
A froe has a thick cross section while a machete has a thin cross section, a froe is rigid while a machete has flex, a froe doesn't need to be very sharp while a machete is best when honed.
The buck 108 is also just an oversized cleaver, it's a bad machete and a worse froe.
Fixall
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Jul 2, 2019
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SDanteYou completely skipped over the part where I said it allows you to baton with it like a standard froe. There is nothing forcing anyone to swing the Libertariat or 108 like a machete when using it as a froe. Why would anyone do that? It's easy enough to use either as as standard froe. You're not making much sense.
I really don't know how I can explain it better. Both the Libertariat and Buck 108 have a standard thick, rigid froe blade. The only difference between these and a standard froe is the handle. You can still hold the handle and baton away to split wood or make shingles, JUST LIKE WITH A STANDARD FROE. The machete style handle just give it a little more versatility FOR WHEN YOU'RE NOT USING IT AS A FROE... Such as knocking small branches off of a larger limb.
SDante
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Jul 2, 2019
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FixallFirst sentence, you don't swing a froe. Ok, explain how you twist the liberiat or buck when they're sunk deep in heartwood? The long handle allows you to keep the blade aligned.
You don't baton with a froe, you use a baton AGAINST a froe.
With a froe you lay it on the wood to be split first, no swing and no bash. Then you hit the froe, using the long handle as a guide to ensure you aren't veering off track.
When you aren't using a froe as a froe, you hang it up and get the right tool, like a hatchet or actual machete.
Fixall
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Sep 19, 2019
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SDanteI gotta wonder if you've ever used something like the Buck Froe or Liberiat as a standard froe then. I've literally never had the Buck go off track when using it as a Froe. The grain of the wood prevents this. Comparing the 18" shingle froe I have on hand compared to the Buck Froe, there is no difference in the ease of making a straight cut. The only difference is that Buck requires you to bend down slightly more since it doesn't have a vertical handle, but has the added benefit of being able to be swung in a pinch.
I prefer this particularly when car camping as it allows me to split kindling without dangerously swinging a small hatchet and is much less awkward to pack then a standard froe, while again having the added benefit of being able to be swung in a pinch, which allows me to leave the machete at home (which is RARELY used by me when car camping, but is occasionally useful).
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