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Bayside_Father
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Feb 16, 2019
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Does anyone have any experience with both this gaiter and the similar neck gaiter by Columbia? If so, which do you like better? Why?
djpr
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Feb 17, 2019
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Bayside_FatherI have an exoffico buff but I don't think its this model. Is my favourite, good quality, light and breathable.
yokken
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Feb 20, 2019
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Bayside_FatherI don't have this gaiter but I have the Freezer Zero by Columbia which seems like a great gaiter. It's very breathable, light, doesn't trap in heat, no problems breathing through it at all, and it's long enough to pull up over my ears and still have enough slack to tuck into my tshirt. I like it. I'm sure this is nice too, but I'd rather have permethrin on my pants and shirt and socks, not near my face or mouth.
Bayside_Father
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Jun 23, 2019
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yokkenWhile I appreciate your concern for your health, I'm much more worried about tick- and insect-borne diseases than I am about any potential side effects related to permethrin exposure.
Permethrin that you spray on lasts for six weeks or six washings, whichever comes first. Permethrin on treated clothing lasts for seventy washings, which probably exceeds the lifetime of the garment. In other words, the permethrin bonded to this gaiter isn't going to rub off during regular wear.
Permethrin on the skin breaks down within about 15 minutes, which is why it's not used in insect repellant sprays or lotions. Permethrin is the active ingredient in lice treatments, such as Nix.
The EPA considers the risks associated with permethrin to be below its LOC (level of concern). In other words, it's safe. (Search for "Permethrin Fact Sheet" on the EPA's website for details.)
http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/PermGen.html
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2018/the-pre-travel-consultation/protection-against-mosquitoes-ticks-other-arthropods
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2018/the-pre-travel-consultation/protection-against-mosquitoes-ticks-other-arthropods
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yokken
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Jun 23, 2019
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Bayside_FatherYou don't spray permethrin on your body, you spray it on clothes. It binds to fabric. The EPA does say permethrin seems pretty safe for humans but it doesn't mean that their opinion could change if new information comes to light. I agree that things like West Nile and some nasty tick diseases are more of a concern, but I also don't wanna get cancer, so, I try to be mindful about exposure to any sort of chemicals whether any body of people say it's safe or not.
Bayside_Father
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Jun 23, 2019
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yokkenRight, I know that permethrin is not for the skin (I removed the potentially confusing word).
Again, I appreciate your concerns for your health. I don't think anyone wants cancer. However, it seems that the risk of cancer from permethrin exposure is orders of magnitude less than the risk of Zika, West Nile, Lyme disease, or any of a host of other awful diseases from biting bugs.
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