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Fallkniven NL5cxL Damascus Fixed Blade Knife
Harut
3
Sep 12, 2020
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It is actually good price for a excellent knife.
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 12, 2020
HarutIt would be a good price if it were solid gold...
Graf_von_G
2
Sep 12, 2020
RHPICAYUNEIf it were made out of "solid gold," the value of the gold alone would be about $12,800.
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 12, 2020
Graf_von_GI was implying that this is a high priced Knife. $$$ 😮
Possibly too expensive to use, or possibly lose ?
PNWNative
448
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GThe value in $12k of gold at $1,200 was the point being made for crying out loud
Graf_von_G
2
Sep 13, 2020
PNWNativeSo you demand to get 90% off, based solely on the cost of materials?
PNWNative
448
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GThen you buy it, the drop only needs one purchase. I'm not demanding anything, nor is anyone else.
raest
111
Sep 13, 2020
Harutthe only way this can be described with "good price" is if you're certified insane. this is, at best, a 300$ knife.
1600$ is the price you pay for custom made damascus knives 3 times the size with premium material handles made by ABS Master smiths, not production knives with production damascus with cheap sheaths and stacked leather handles, overall costing maybe 100-150$ in materials (being generous here)
Graf_von_G
2
Sep 13, 2020
PNWNativeYour comment is a non sequitur. Own your words.
Harut
3
Sep 13, 2020
RHPICAYUNEI don’t like jewelry and I’m outdoorsman so I can’t skin pig with gold after harvesting it . I don’t understand why would any one is member of knife community compare knife prices with some other stupid stuff that has nothing to do with knife?. Price on this knife is almost is distributors cost . I know you are going to ask me to buy it if the price is that good and I would if I didn’t had one. I got one about 20 years ago with VG10 steel and I love it . But this one is much much better than what I got. Knife with blade of hrc 64 is a dream , add Japanese craftsmanship on top and it means you can pass it to your grandkids. By the way I think Fallkniven is one of the no nonsense knife companies in the world if not the only one. So if anyone is in a market to buy gold? is in a wrong place.
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
HarutWhat are you rambling on about?
PNWNative
448
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GOoh, you are too smart for me /sarcasm. The comment made originally by RHPicayune that you objected to was a non-sequir and yet you are still blabbing away.
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GThen my comment stands and is absolutely true.
A $12,800 Knife selling for $1200 would be a very good value —you have made my point.
Graf_von_G
2
Sep 13, 2020
PNWNativeMy comment was a direct response to the claim, and demonstrated why the claim was absurd. By definition, it cannot be a non sequitur. Your other claims also fail basic logic tests. Therefore, by definition, only one blabbing is you.
Hatut
4
Sep 13, 2020
raestI’m hoping that you are serious about what you are saying and give me the information of the $300 knife that is good as this one. Please do .
Graf_von_G
2
Sep 13, 2020
RHPICAYUNESo you are also expecting that Drop offer items at 10% material cost? Otherwise, your comment is meaningless. We know that's not what you meant, but instead of owning your mistake and misplaced sarcasm, you are scurrying to save face and back your buddy for his silly comments. If you don't like the knife, there is no reason to care about the price. If you like the knife, but don't appreciate the deep discount, move on. Making silly sarcastic comments adds nothing to the discussion, but just shows that you speak when there is nothing to say.
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GBy logic, a $12,800 knife selling for $1200 would absolutely be a good value, and is therefore not an absurd claim.
I await your intelligent reply
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GAre you just trying to win an argument ? 😃
I made a joke and replied to the comparatively high price of this knife, and you are ruffling your feathers and ruining your whole day hoping to win an argument.
Dude, it’s OK, if it makes you feel better and get your blood pressure down, we will both consider you the victor.
Now enjoy the rest of your day, go hug your kids or something.
Graf_von_G
2
Sep 13, 2020
RHPICAYUNEI am perfectly calm. I've dealt with prols and simpletons before. It requires little effort. We already understood that you think the knife is over-priced. So what? Don't buy it. That's the best way to send the message. Now, if you want to be mature and constructive, you could've mentioned specific similar knives with comparable features that you feel are better priced.
PNWNative
448
Sep 13, 2020
RHPICAYUNEGraf_von_G is rigid and I've seen similar argumentation from programmers and engineers. People like this guy always have to have the last word - rightly or wrongly.
Graf_von_G
2
Sep 13, 2020
PNWNativeIf you are capable of commenting in a way that adds value, that would be great, but ad hominem comments, sarcasm, and nebulous claims don't. You made a lot of comments on this thread, and none of them really address the knife in any meaningful way, or suggest actual alternatives. We get that is who you are, but I don't know why anyone needs to be exposed to that. If the "last word" is so important to you, you might want to try naming specific knives with similar materials, characteristics, and build quality currently available at a "better" price point. It also has the potential to add a modicum of credibility to your yet unsubstantiated claims.
PNWNative
448
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GI have a brother who is in the technology field who uses the same form of argument as you do. Goodbye
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_Gi’m not going to let you get the last word! 😃
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
PNWNativeHe’s going to ride this argument out for days or weeks —I think I can beat him 😃
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GYou have not won the argument 😃
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GThe only way I will concede defeat in this argument is if you write at least 68 paragraphs in your rebuttal.
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GYou like to write long-winded retorts, so I’m gonna make you work your ass off for it 😃
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GI expect at least a one-page response for every comment I made to you, G-spot. 🤣
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RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
Graf_von_GHey Grafenberg, Where are you ?I’m looking forward to your long-winded reply 😁
raest
111
Sep 13, 2020
Hatutif you want convex edges and similar (or better) performance: pretty much anything by Bark River will destroy this in this size. and not that long ago you even had options in Zoe Crist damascus.
if you want something better made for ~300, you have plenty of custom makers offering better. first that comes to mind as i'm due in 2 months is Malanika. i also know of some that will get you roughly this sized knife in Damasteel, and for a bit more you can get "author" handmade damascus, and not this industrial crap. hell, go to the russian market and you can get Slon knives for ~300 made out of "bulat" (i.e. the russian version of wootz crucible steel), with beautiful premium wood handles and even engraved/sculpted buttcaps and bolsters
as i said, this is "good value" only if you're completely and utterly insane
PNWNative
448
Sep 13, 2020
RHPICAYUNEDidn’t you confirm a couple of years ago that Fallkniven does not warranty any of their product sold on (mass)drop?
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
PNWNativeVery good detective work by you!
How did you find my old comment?
Yes in fact, I did contact Fallkniven regarding buying one of their knives (A-1 model) from Massdrop, and their response to me was since it was not offered from one of their “regular” Knife outlets, it would NOT be warranted.
I made the purchase from Massdrop anyway, as I knew it was a genuine product, and the quality was excellent.
I still have the knife in my collection Lol
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
PNWNativeIf I remember correctly, I was kind of irritated at Massdrop, because they weren’t responding to my queries about the knife being warranted or not.
I guess I know the reason they were not responding—product not warranted by manufacturer !
PNWNative
448
Sep 13, 2020
RHPICAYUNEAt the price point of this drop is should be guaranteed forever by Drop.com
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 13, 2020
raestGood advice you give!
Bark River is an excellent performer!
LT Wright is another maker of excellent quality knives.
I am subscribed to the YouTube channel Cedric & Ada gear & outdoors (Australian maybe?) and I want to say he did a huge knife test, and preferred LT Wright over Bark River?, but I could be wrong...
raest
111
Sep 13, 2020
RHPICAYUNEi'd say LT offers better value for money. imo, they're much more "function over form", while BRK, in my opinion at least, offer the best compromise between function, form and customizability, so you get something that's almost a custom (not really, but as close as a production company can get). it comes at a cost, of course, and the community can be a bit... overtly defensive. and if you don't want to spend that kind of money, LT is pretty much the same quality at a lesser price (though convex grinds are very rare at LT). and, it should be noted, BRK can, from time to time, screw up their heat treats or even mislabel steels (C&A has a video or two on the topic), so there's a possibility of getting a dud
that said, BRK offers one of the best (if not THE best) warranties in the industry, and their retailers are beyond awesome (ksf and dlt), so you can shop with confidence if you decide to pull the trigger. oh... and another thing to note, if you ever decide to go for them, unless you specifically want to get it really thick, go for the "LT" model of a knife if it exists, as the "non LT" are usually too thick for us mere mortals who don't use our knife super-hard as pry bars :)
oh, and fun fact, the owner of BRK is the guy who taught the japanese dudes over at Fallkniven (lol) how to do the convex grinds.
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 14, 2020
PNWNativeI know, right?
For $1200, they could at least offer 2 free replacements for loss/ theft, LOL 😆
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 14, 2020
raestThank you!
Good information, and I never knew that about the Bark River owner teaching the Fallkniven company !!
Not knocking Fallkniven company, but I do believe we have some excellent knife makers right here in America! 😀
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 14, 2020
HarutYour comment was too long —stopped reading after the second line.
Trump 2020 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Hatut
4
Sep 15, 2020
RHPICAYUNEIf you’re smart enough to vote for Trump than you should have realized comment was to long before you’re start reading it not after you start reading. I have waisted enough time here with this nonsense so you guys all have a good one.
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 15, 2020
HatutAre your feelings hurt because you’re losing the argument ?
if you’re smart enough to vote for Hiding Biden, then you’d see what your loser party is doing to the country.
If it makes you feel better buddy, your boy Sleepy Dementia Joe is leading Trump in the polls and is projected to win by a landslide , just like Hillary !!!
good luck with that, loser !! 😀😂
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 15, 2020
HatutIf you’re smart enough to spell “waisted”then I bow to your superior intellect 😂
RHPICAYUNE
200
Sep 15, 2020
HatutThe correct form is “too” long, not “to”long, Brainiac !!! 😅😂🤣
Hatut
4
Sep 15, 2020
RHPICAYUNELol. Don’t know what to tell you man .You won the conversation. But please don’t reply cuz I won’t come back to read it.
Knife_Geek
1
Sep 27, 2020
raestYeah, ask me about my bark river experience. I purchased a BRK Gunny Scandi in 3V. Scales weren’t ground flush and protruded about 1/8” outside the tang. You’re more than welcome to tell me where to send pictures and email conversations with the owner calling me a liar and telling me that I changed the scales and messed them up myself. As well as the apologetic email I received from him after he received the knife.
this IS a great deal for a phenomenal knife. Yeah, most people can’t or won’t afford this knife. But absolute best quality and no BS blame games you can’t beat Fallkniven.
does a corvette cost more than my diesel dually truck, yes. It my truck faster and can haul more weight and gets about the same mileage and fits 6 adults comfortably yes. So why would any idiot spend money on a corvette.
you don’t like the knife or it’s price, that’s absolutely fine. Go away and stop crying and acting like a spoiled child, and arguing punctuation and spelling to make a point towards someone’s intelligence. Grow up, and remember that everyone has an opinion just like a sphincter, and 99% of the time no one cares to hear the BS that you or your sphincter have to spew.
bye kiddo.
raest
111
Sep 27, 2020
Knife_Geeklol. what a bunch of apologetic bs from an uninformed peasant spreading misinformation. trying to justify spending 4 figures on a mediocre PRODUCTION knife made with average steel and substandard handle materials (not to mention that abhorrent sheath), when for the same (or lower price) you can get bigger (if you want) and better in literally every single possible way, made to your own specs (if you so desire) by a MASTER smith. and forged, not stock removed.
you want my experience with fallkniven? received a knife (gp folder) with the liners ground unevenly where the teflon washers sit, with the teflon washers themselves being rough (really?!), the wooden scales being poorly finished, not to mention it was by far the dullest knife i have had out of the box (not quite butterknife, but not far behind. hell, the spine was ground sharper than the edge, lol). you know how they responded? they didn't. so i fixed it myself 'cause for the mighty fallkniven it's obviously too hard a task to grind some basic stainless steel liners flat. i also know of others with problems with their QC... but you know what? it's a production company. flaws are to be expected. how you deal with them is what matters
i find it mindblowing that people so incredibly misinformed exist, let alone individuals who also think they're intelligent for advocating such INSANE stupidity while being barely literate and obviously possessing no knowledge about the matter at hand
your "arguments" (or rather, the inane attempts at those) are pathetic. go back to your basement and leave the grown up talk to the grownups who actually know at least the basics of the industry and knifemaking in general.
but do go on, keep on defending this overpriced travesty. come on, i want to be entertained some more!
Knife_Geek
1
Sep 28, 2020
raest”uninformed peasant” ??
the ONLY mediocre thing I’ve heard or seen this far has been you, your replies, and the way you act like a spoiled step child. I’ve stuck more knives in to people, animals, flesh and wood than you could probably imagine with that minuscule brain on yours.
Yeah, harden the crap out of that steel, so when you need to put an edge on it outside of your mother’s basement, you’re SOL. You and I both know manufacturers are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t.
And remember, peasants don’t complain about the pricing of their luxury items. Broke libtards troglodyte trolls such as yourself do.
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raest
111
Sep 28, 2020
Knife_Geekyour lack of knowledge for a supposed "geek" is astounding. no wonder you're only capable of ad hominems.
and assuming i cannot afford this monument to overpriced mediocrity only obtuse, ignorant fanboys would even begin to consider... lol. any of my customs would outperform this in any measurable metric, not to mention they look 1000 times better with several orders of magnitude fit & finish. and as far as sharpening goes, if you're not an uneducated troglodyte, it's easy and trivial. we're talking outdoors knives here, not pocket knives in maxamet at 67+ hrc.
but those are all things you'd know, if you were actually a "knife geek", and not a pretentious, uneducated, ignorant, petulant manchild who can't even come up with insults so he resorts to "no u" like a 12 year old. the average teen in their early teens has more knowledge, skill and is more literate
pathetic
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