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WalterBlack
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Jun 28, 2018
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Why would you spend so much on a cable ?
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Cokeman
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Jun 28, 2018
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WalterBlackThat's not a lot for a cable.
Jun 28, 2018
WalterBlack
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Jun 28, 2018
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CokemanIt's almost half the price of a 58x.
If this is the normal price for a sennheiser cable I sure hope I won't have to replace them...
Jun 28, 2018
Cokeman
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WalterBlackNo, but it is still not a lot for an aftermarket cable. Especially if you want a balanced cable.
Jun 28, 2018
WalterBlack
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CokemanSorry, noob audiophile here. What do you mean by balanced cable?
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Cokeman
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WalterBlackOne that uses 4pin XLR over 1/4in.
Jun 28, 2018
WalterBlack
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CokemanOh ok, are there any advantages to them?
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Cokeman
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Jun 28, 2018
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WalterBlackYes, you get more power, separated grounds, and some people say a much improved sound on some Amps with more separation and width.
Jun 28, 2018
RayF
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Jul 29, 2018
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CokemanWarning: “objects appear to sound better in the mirror”
Jul 29, 2018
WalterBlack
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Jul 29, 2018
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RayFSo is it snake oil or not ?
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Cokeman
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Jul 29, 2018
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WalterBlackNo. Cables are never snake oil unless they claim to improve sound.
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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WalterBlackAbout fifty-bucks worth—much cheaper if you just buy it in gallon jars! ;- )
Jul 29, 2018
WalterBlack
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CokemanBut didn't you say that balanced cable do ?
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WalterBlack
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RayFI wouldn't even buy a drop !
Jul 29, 2018
Cokeman
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Jul 29, 2018
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WalterBlackYes. Because most Amps that have balanced put more money into the balanced section so that part is high quality. So it’s not really the cable doing it, it just allows you to use it. Now Ray please shut up. This isn’t snake oil even remotely. No where do they claim this improves sound. All aftermarket cables are is to have a nicer feeling cable. That’s all this is. Sometimes you don’t like stock cables, either they are too long, to stiff, janky, split too short, etc. And you just want something that is a bit nicer is feel and quality. But no improvement to sound.
Jul 29, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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RayFScary thing is, Sennheiser charges $240 for their balanced HD650 cable so what's on offer here is pretty cheap by comparison: https://www.crutchfield.com/p_143CH650S/Sennheiser-CH-650-S.html?tp=61599&awkw=75648043225&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=47748503065&awdv=m&awug=9015632&gclid=CjwKCAjwy_XaBRAWEiwApfjKHtVGIAHhmfR1GRlbErgfvtzmKvi7xXNhBPHSDgeNXRlN4LyJbG3TzxoCRbcQAvD_BwE
Can't really get mad at folks that price this stuff when you have consumers spending upwards of $300 on cables. Gotta love that markup!
Jul 29, 2018
WalterBlack
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CokemanOk thanks for the precision !
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WalterBlack
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jaydunndidditWhat a joke.
Jul 29, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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WalterBlackCrazy thing is, for an OEM balanced cable, this is somewhat the norm. HiFiMan and Fostex actually charge more for the same sort of cable. Everything Focal makes is priced just as stupid. It's hard to blame the manufacturers when people are willing to blindly spend 300 bones on a cable. I use a cheap $20 chi-fi cable I got off Amazon and personally couldn't be happier. Sounds just like the stock cable but has better looks and feel with a length I prefer. When you price cables stupidly, others will gladly come in and offer something more competitive.
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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jaydunndidditWell I suspect the Sennheiser is better--better looking, better fitting connectors, and as you say, much better margins. Unfortunately, none of that "better" ends up in anybody's ears ;- )
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Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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WalterBlackIt's good to keep a small bottle around; just so you don't forget what it smells like ;- )
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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CokemanThat's true--cables that make you look more intelligent, or better looking than you actually are--well those are worth whatever you want to pay for them!
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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CokemanJust because there are plenty of cables that cost more, and even lots more in some cases--doesn't mean these cables are a deal or worth what they're charging for them.
Pretty sure in a blind taste test, you'd spit them all out!
Jul 29, 2018
Cokeman
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RayFYou are just saying things with no logic or reasoning. I literally said they don’t do anything for sound. So what do you have against them?
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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CokemanWhat do I have against them? About sixty-bucks!
As for the logic; why would you buy these when everyone who sells the corresponding headphones includes a free cable in every box?
Buying this one would be...
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Jul 29, 2018
Cokeman
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RayFOk, so you see the ZY cable for the HD800 also on here? What do you think of that? Should I not buy it if I broke my HD800 stock cable?
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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CokemanHow much does Sennheiser charge for the stock replacement cable? I think that would be my starting point. If those were ridiculously expensive also, I'd shop around. I replaced the too-short cables on my 4XX for about $25. They sound just like the one's I replaced.
Jul 29, 2018
Cokeman
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RayFBut that's not my point. I am not saying anything about the sound. The point of expensive cables is just about the feel of the cable themselves. You might not care about that, but some people do.
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RayF
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CokemanFeel?!! If we can't measure how good cables sound, how can we be expected to measure how good they feel? Wait--I know one measurement of feel--paying to much for anything makes me feel bad!
Jul 29, 2018
WalterBlack
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RayFI don't know, I feel like snake oil has so many forms and odors while being really simple at the same time.
Jul 29, 2018
Cokeman
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RayFYou are a hard headed SOB aren’t you? What do you mean you don’t know what feel menas? If a cable is clothed, 4 strand braid, more flexible, etc... You have serious problems if you have this much hatred twoards something that isn’t even overpriced. I hope you never find out how much it costs Sennheiser to make the 6XXs.
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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CokemanRelax, I didn't say you can't buy them--I didn't even say go ask your mother--I just said if this is how you want to spend all the money you made mowing lawns this summer, and you've thought real hard about it, then go ahead. Not because I approve, but because some people have to learn life's little lessons for themselves.
But I would suggest you take better care of this set, than you apparently did with the set that came in the box with your HD600s--for FREE!
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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WalterBlack...and they sell every sent and flavor of it right here on MD!
Jul 29, 2018
WalterBlack
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RayFhttps://www.massdrop.com/buy/i-s-millworks-headphone-stands
Gracious piece of wood that holds your headphones instead of your head : 75$.
Oh well.
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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WalterBlackI think I remember that drop, or one like it. First, I'd have to admit that I've spent some "dumb money" in my life too, and I suppose if you've got money to burn, g'wan a head! But A). I never liked the shape or the design of that stand and B). I didn't like the idea of financing the guys shop/equipment (he included a lot of nice photos showing what folks were actually paying for). I know he needs the stuff, and that's probably what it takes to make a bunch of those stands--but I just don't want to be the guy who has to pay for it all.
I thought the guy who repurposed the Banana-bunch hanger had the smartest idea--and I'm guessing he saved about $72 over what the drop's participants paid!
Jul 29, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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WalterBlackWithout thinking about the price, that purpleheart is just flatout gorgeous. If they offered it in Ebony wood, I would somehow justify the cost to myself.
With that being said, I use acrylic Omega stands that were about 5 bucks a pop that do the same job.
Jul 29, 2018
WalterBlack
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RayFI actually like the look of this stand. I just feel like this is way too overpriced.
He didn't invent nothing with it : the shape was already known the wood combination too..
Nothing new so I am sure you could find some less expensive stand with a similar quality.
Jul 29, 2018
WalterBlack
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jaydunndidditLike I said above, I agree that these are beautiful.
I just don't understand how people can spend so much on a stand, or cables.
Put it like that the stand + these cables vs the Sennheiser 58x the choice is already made for me.
Accessories shouldn't cost nearly half the price of some apparently good sounding headphones...
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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WalterBlackI know I'm wear'n this picture out, but every time some one talks about expensive stands, I have to put it up. Only cost about twenty-bucks on Amazon and it holds two pair. If I had an extra $75 to burn, I'd put towards something I could hear...or maybe drink ;- )
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WalterBlack
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RayFI have found this one (https://www.amazon.fr/Jokitech-Aluminium-Sennheiser-audio-Technica-écouteurs/dp/B01N9ONZ7A/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅZÕÑ&qid=1532908055&sr=8-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=headphone+stand)
It's in my country's Amazon and it seems to be the same one. It is apparently full aluminium for 19€ and can indeed hold two headphones.
I might actually buy this one since I believe it is a great value. It's gonna be even harder to justify the 75$ of the wooden one
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/sieveking-omega-headphone-stand/talk#discussions
This one was 130$ according to a comment... Not even that good looking.
Jul 29, 2018
RayF
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Jul 30, 2018
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WalterBlackSame one I have--requires a little assembly. If I end up with more headphones, I'll buy another one. As for the one that cost $130, you have to remember--a lot of people on this site take drugs!
Jul 30, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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WalterBlackI personally use these: https://www.amazon.com/AmoVee-Acrylic-Headphone-Gaming-Headset/dp/B00SGW9QLS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1532911302&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=acrylic+headphone+stand&dpPl=1&dpID=41PhEBekr1L&ref=plSrch
They used to sell them in a 2-pack for super cheap and I bought a few pairs but they're very stable and unobtrusive. Once they became more popular, they raised the price a bit.
Jul 30, 2018
WalterBlack
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Jul 30, 2018
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jaydunndiddit*Adds gaming in the title of his product*
*Becomes popular *
It still seems like a great value. I just had to laugh a bit at the advertising.
I hope you didn't dare put non-gaming headphones on them!
Jul 30, 2018
RayF
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jaydunndidditThis one's more expensive but it holds about twenty pairs at a time:
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Mounts on the wall to save space too...
Jul 30, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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WalterBlackWell, I did buy them while I was all hopped up on Mountain Dew 🙃
Jul 30, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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RayFSeveral pairs? Mine hold one. You bop it on the nose for the mouth to open and close. The rack is for cable management.
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RayF
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jaydunndidditIt's never good form to mistreat animals--even after you've stuffed them.
Jul 30, 2018
jaydunndiddit
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RayFYou say that. But after hunting the elusive white cat-monkey, the only rightful option is a proper meme pose.
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RayF
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jaydunndidditHow many headphones does it hold?
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jaydunndiddit
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RayFObviously, four. One per hand, one on its tail, and one on its head, If one is feeling adventurous, you could ramp it up to six if you include the legs. Arguably, the best meme beast I've had stuffed. The internet is a vast wilderness, afterall.
Jul 30, 2018
WalterBlack
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jaydunndidditDamn, how much would you sell it for ?
Jul 30, 2018
Xyrium
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Aug 31, 2018
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WalterBlackIt's like when you choose to stay in a higher end hotel while on vacation. Electrons apparently enjoy being pampered too... LOL
Aug 31, 2018
dbcher
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Sep 27, 2018
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WalterBlackActually, you can buy an official sennheiser cable which fits the 58x, 6xx etc. for $20. It's 3m long and has a 6.35mm (1/4") plug.
I got mine from amazon and is great.
It is not a balanced cable like this drop, but my DAC isn't balanced so no need for me to upgrade cables or DAC's yet.
Sep 27, 2018
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