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FrobroX
33
Apr 14, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_dHiV6ilR0 Was interested in these after watching Joshua Valour's video. Still haven't cracked into any IEMs yet. Really just looking for a good neutral one, so this pair might not be the one for me.
FrobroXI was just about to post josh's vid lmao TLDW-J V thinks these are really good at soundstage and a natural sound
lumpiestpoon3
26
Apr 15, 2021
FrobroXGet a Blessing 2 if you want neutral and detailed, or a Starfield/Aria at a lower price. The A4000 is bright and sibilant, but is the way to go if you want very wide soundstage. The imaging equivalent is the Mangird Tea.
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zerokdegree
5
Apr 22, 2021
lumpiestpoon3Hi. I have a Mangird Tea. You said the imaging is equivalent to these, but what about soundstage and detail retrieval? I'm wondering how do they compare.
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zerokdegreeI also have Mangird Tea's I'll do a comparison when my A4000's get here but willing to bet less detail maybe more/the same soundstage
zerokdegree
5
Apr 22, 2021
quicklytoo4awesome! are you going to do a comparison video or something?
lumpiestpoon3
26
Apr 22, 2021
zerokdegreeAh, sorry for the confusion. What I meant to say is that the A4000 specializes in soundstage, while the Mangird Tea specializes in imaging. I think the Tea would have more detail retrieval but the soundstage is certainly smaller. If you want something that's a jack of all trades, Blessing 2 has better-than-average soundstage, good imaging, and a flawless tonality.
zerokdegree
5
Apr 22, 2021
lumpiestpoon3Ohhh I see! Thank you for the clarification!
zerokdegreecan confirm A4000 has good soundstage for an IEM and especially at the price I find them more enjoyable for pleasure listening than the Tea as well that said the accessories besides the eartips suck lol
zerokdegree
5
May 20, 2021
quicklytoo4Thanks for the insight. What about critical listening? Which one do you find to be more suitable for critical listening?
zerokdegreetea's are more detailed so would have to say those that said I find them pretty fatiguing so long sessions might not favor them
Bearded1
10
May 20, 2021
quicklytoo4I'd like to add to this, if I may... I don't own the Tea, but I do own the Thieaudio L5. I absolutely loved the L5, especially the smoothness of the mids and treble. Not a super wide sound stage on the L5, but imaging seems good to my wannabe audiophile ears. :0) On a whim I bought the A4000. On first listen, I was blown away by the soundstage, but I thought the treble was a tad grainy. Not terribly offensive, but it was noticeable on some tracks, coming from the L5. I believe the imaging is pretty good with the A4000. Maybe not quite as good as the L5, but close enough for me. Plus, bass is more prominent on the A4000. I doubt bass-head levels, but really good for my library (classic rock, 80s-90s metal, 80s new wave, alternative, indie, classical and some newer pop). After some time (about three weeks now), I no longer notice the graininess. Can't say if it's due to physical changes to the drivers (burn-in) or simply becoming mentally accustomed to the sound signature. However, I can tell you I no longer use the L5s. Something about the A4000 just makes the music sing to my ears. (Pun intended) YMMV
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zerokdegree
5
May 20, 2021
Bearded1Thanks man. I think when these are on sale on drop again, I'll snatch these bad bois!
Bearded1
10
May 20, 2021
zerokdegreeThey are on sale again, today. This is what prompted me to post.
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Bearded1yeah the A4000's are pretty surprisingly good for the drop price that said from what I've heard the A4000 is probably a closer match to the L4 (tuning wise at least L5 is meant to be more neutral) sadly a lot of people seem to think the L4 has sub par soundstage
Bearded1
10
May 20, 2021
quicklytoo4Maybe? I had the L4 at one time, too. It was so long ago, I really no longer remember what the L4 sounds like. What I do remember, is the L4 and L5 sounded similar to me. I was debating on which to keep when severe driver flex in the L4 prompted me to return them, and not replace them. I still have the L5 and do really like them, but keep finding myself grabbing the A4000 the vast majority (all?) of the time.
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zerokdegree
5
May 20, 2021
Bearded1Ya I just grabbed them! Waiting for them to ship sometime in June 😂
Bearded1
10
May 20, 2021
zerokdegreeCongrats! I hope you enjoy them as much as I do.
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