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I've been buying products from them for months and they've been great at shipping times and customer service. Their site clearly states these are art, that can be spun. These are obviously not professional spinners. I can get my 16g Titanium top to about 3 minutes on their base which is very acceptable for its weight, design and material. I can get it to spin upside down for over a minute. Spinable art with a small, but very high end base. I've received all my orders from them in less than a week. Anyone who complains about low spin times and small bases should be ashamed of themselves, it's not the tops fault you didn't read the descriptions.
Unfortunately I won't be getting in on this one as the only other tops I want are Magnesium and Tungsten. The odds of either are not in my favor.
I'll agree that the main selling point of this top is the design and, to probably an equal extent, the low price compared to other tops.
That said, they definitely don't have good spin times relative to weight/construction. They chose to sacrifice performance for form factor. That's absolutely fine but let's not pretend they're good performers. Three minutes is a joke of a spin time and it's mainly because of the high center of gravity and lack of a bearing.
It's an excellent display top and great for kids who might drop it since it's just a relatively cheap piece of metal without a bearing to break. It definitely has its place but if someone is looking for a top designed primarily for spinning, this isn't the top for them.
Yes, I agree with everything you said, except maybe my time of 3 minutes. I'm still happy with the spin time, considering the design, material and its weight. Obviously with a better design intended to spin longer, it would be longer.
I forgot to mention earlier a pro of these tops is the ability to do a true comparison of metals. I like feeling and seeing the difference between titanium, cast iron and copper. The comparisons are a great bonus.
Also note most of the foreverspin tops are fairly light compared to professional spinners. The tungsten top is a decent weight, and can easily achieve 10-12 minutes... But costs a fair amount.
Overall my point is to ensure people read the descriptions and avoid buying these for spin times. You can't buy these and complain about spin times.
I have the Tungsten top and I can assure you that I never reached more than 3 mn (I easily reach 10 with the famous lambda top). If you have a video with significantly longer time, then please post it somewhere instead of propagating disinformation.
You may appreciate the Inception-inspired design and the different metals/alloys (I do also) but it remains totally inefficient wrt spinning time.
None of these tops can "easily" achieve anything. They have 3 problems:
- very high center of gravity making them unstable
- very bad repartition of mass (most of the mass is near the axis)
- very ill polished tip (not only absence of ceramic tip)
- absence of a grip (making them hard to spin)
As for the low price, the aluminium is sold 34$ on their website. The same China-made one is 4 or 5$ on Amazon.
I can agree with most of what you said as well, but, propagating disinformation? Seriously? I can get 2-3 minutes with every decent spin of my titanium and at least as much with the copper one I received today. YouTube Foreverspin titanium, tungsten or any of them for several 2-10 minute spins.
Yes, the design is inferior for spin times. They haven't chosen to copy the Lambda tops bearings or hollow stem, good for them. I've never tried a $5 Chinese top before but I'd bet they aren't perfectly balanced, and the spin times probably suffer more than these do.
Nobody should buy these if they want a top that can break the 3 minute mark easily. The heavier, more expensive Foreverspin tops can spin longer but if spin time is your goal buy the Lambda or Mk1. Buy these for their looks, materials and because they stand up straight when spun.
Yes, I was talking about three minutes being a poor spin time compared to most other tops. Everyone should expect lower spin times from these. The massdrop descriptions typically make the products out to be incredible in every way which doesn't help matters.
What you see on Youtube is not 100% reliable. You can also see 20 min spins for the Lambda (which is only 1'' and 35g) or MK1 (1.1'' and 42g); it may be true (miracles can happen) or fake; as for me, I reach only 10 min in reproducible ways. And only 2-3 with any Foreverspin (typical 1.1'' and 30g). They (and the name itself) keep deliberately ambiguous about their tops; on their website, they even speak of using them for competitions.
I can't see why a China-made top would be less balanced, especially when the design is so simple. They have the same machines and they also mass-produce them, one top a minute. And I can't imagine that their tips could be still worse: see the pic of the RoseGold tip, the machining circles are not even polished (BTW, I tried to have them replace this top, but they persistently refused). Foreverspin makes a lot of fuss about their technology, but that's only marketing: any top maker has the same lathes. Having them controlled by computers only means that they can produce them faster.
Larger weight doesn't automatically mean longer spin time. You should have no regret about not having Tungsten: with no grip on the spindle, it's hard to spin.
Anyway, if you're happy with your tops, that's fine for me.