Well, I was too cheap to buy them on here, and I still wouldn't pay Massdrop's price for these, but I did pick up a nearly new pair for $225 and I am glad I did -- definitely sound better, more refined, more open, and far, far more comfortable -- than my T20RP MK3. Oh, and they're much better looking. Just my 2 cents. :) They are rather "soft"-sounding, there's definitely very little sizzle up top (like the T50RP MK3 which I also have), the sound stage is smaller than the HE-500 for certain. They are great easy-listening cans, very clean-sounding, no distortion.