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Jul 16, 2020
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Hey all, this is Julie from iFi. Hoping to help shed a little light for you to hopefully help with some of your queries with the differences between the ZEN DAC and the premium version, ZEN DAC Signature. The ZEN CAN Signature is a hot-rodded machine. We have done the same for the ZEN DAC. So we made the ZEN DAC Signature. Both are maxed to the hilt when partnering the HD6XX.  The key differences between the two are: Upgraded premium parts (see pcb highlights):   Sanyo Oscons and   Elna Silmics and   Panasonic capacitors 
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UPDATED!!! This now includes the iPOWER X!!!! The iPOWER also feeds a very quiet power supply (normally sold as a separate item).

iPOWER measurement methodology and results here: 

https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/28304-measuring-the-ipower-much-ado-about-nothing-part-4-uploaded-and-complete/    We hope this helps to shed some light on our approach. Sonic differences?  Our Chief Designer Thorsten Loesch said, "a good comparison would be a standard Marantz (SA)CD-Player and a KI version”.  I hope this is some help to answering some of your queries, we are a friendly bunch at iFi and will do all we can to answer your questions! I promise we are listening to you and taking your comments on board. Oh and also, click this link to take you through to our thread on Head-fi where we haves started releasing the full Tech details for both products, for those that want to delve a little deeper. https://www.head-fi.org/threads/ifi-audio-zen-can-signature-6xx-zen-dac-signature.936743/page-5#post-15742970 Thanks, Jules
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Jul 16, 2020
verifonix
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Jul 17, 2020
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So between iDac2 micro and ZEN sig, which would win?
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Jul 17, 2020
iFiaudio.com
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iFi Audio
Jul 17, 2020
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Hi there! DAC Sig and iDAC2 would be closely matched. i. Because of the similar architecture. B-B chipset, Elna Silmics, etc. ii. BUT the ZEN DAC Sig shades it is because in key areas it has improved parts quality and because it has a direct balanced out to the (fixed) line out, which the iDAC 2 lacks.  Overall, a lower noise floor fed by a better power supply from the iPOWER (iDAC2 is USB power only). Much of the following tech notes apply to the ZEN DAC Sig too (bar some parts and ANC but with Balanced circuitry): https://ifi-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/The-iDAC2-part1.pdf
https://ifi-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/iDAC2-Spilling-the-Sauce-2-of-6_-9-Nov-2015.pdf
https://ifi-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/iDAC2-Spilling-the-Sauce-3-of-6_-11-Nov-2015-1.pdf
https://ifi-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/iDAC2-Spilling-the-Sauce-4-of-6_-13-Nov-2015.pdf
https://ifi-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/iDAC2-Spilling-the-Sauce-5-of-6_-17-Nov-2015.pdf As a result sound quality ranking: BAL Line: 1) Zen DAC Sig 2) Zen DAC orig iDAC 2 lacks balanced out. SE (line) 1) Zen DAC Sig 2) iDAC 2 3) Zen DAC orig hope this helps!
Jul 17, 2020
Revonoc
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Sep 29, 2020
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Hi Jules, I was wondering if this USB cable will plug into my MacBook Pro 2018. Not sure if that's considered a thunderbolt cable or a USB see but if I need a modified cable I'd like to get it before my Zen cans and Zen dac arrive. Really excited about this. Bruce
Sep 29, 2020
iFiaudio.com
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iFi Audio
Sep 29, 2020
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Hi Bruce! First up it’s great to hear you are excited about your purchase! Regarding the USB cable, we ship with USB A>B cable and correct me if I’m wrong but the MacBook has USB C port? Therefore if you have a breakout hub that will work with our enclosed cable. Another option maybe... our iSilencer+ C>A version could be a good shout too? Not trying to shamefully up sell to you I promise (eek!) but just pointing out in case it’s good shout for you!! More info here just in case :-) https://ifi-audio.com/products/isilencer-plus/ hope that helps! thanks Jules
Sep 29, 2020
Klee-Mains
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Dec 11, 2020
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Any chance at another run of this? I’d love to order one (and the can signature) after missing my chance before! ( Also tagging @ifiaudio_Vince , @ifi-audio_Vic )
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Dec 11, 2020
verifonix
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Dec 15, 2020
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Just got another run.
Dec 15, 2020
Klee-Mains
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Dec 15, 2020
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Saw that earlier and got my order in :)
Dec 15, 2020
leonardo.rivera
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Dec 23, 2020
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What operational amplifier does zen dac signature have, is it different from the original zen dac?. Can you upgrade to Opamp? 
Dec 23, 2020
verifonix
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Dec 23, 2020
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"Can you upgrade Opamp?" No. Impossible.
Dec 23, 2020
raymets1
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Jan 2, 2021
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Would like to get my hands on one of these, but they are sold out. Do you have any idea when they will become available again? Do you sell open box units? I wouldn’t mind buying an open box. Update: I was able to find one available New on Ebay, So I picked it up.
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Jan 2, 2021
iFiaudio.com
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iFi Audio
Jan 6, 2021
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Glad you got one!
Jan 6, 2021
ptse
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Jan 15, 2021
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The claim of iFi signature is like "KI vs Standard Marantz" is big. I brought this DAC / AMP combo based on this statement alone.
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Jan 15, 2021
Darkvlade
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Mar 11, 2021
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Already have it :) amazon now sells a full kit with everything you need. And the signature was on sale for 169 for a lil bit.
Mar 11, 2021
SDK1
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Apr 6, 2021
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Hi Julie. As a UK based company, can you explain why it is cheaper for customers in UK to buy your products from a US site and import them, than simply buying in the UK? UK pricing is around 40% greater than US pricing, meaning anything above $140 is cheaper to import...
Apr 6, 2021
iFiaudio.com
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iFi Audio
Apr 6, 2021
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Hi SDK1, thanks for the question. The UK prices are inclusive of VAT but the US prices do not include US taxes- they are added at checkout. Hope that helps?
Apr 6, 2021
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