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dragon788
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Apr 22, 2016
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@HaaTa @AlexPeterkin @YanboWu @RojoNinja just opened my eyes to the fact that this now includes USB-C connectors, but I can find zero mention of them on the input.club website/forums/FAQs or anywhere else other than a one liner in this drop's description. There also don't appear to be updated schematics on GitHub, is this another feature that still needs to be worked on before the drop gets shipped to purchasers?
Apr 22, 2016
RojoNinja
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Apr 22, 2016
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It's also listed in the "Specifications", "Included" and the "Change Log" on the drop page. Aside from that I don't know.
Apr 22, 2016
HaaTa
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Apr 22, 2016
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Yes, this is very new. As per usual we'll be releasing the schematics/pcb (case hasn't changed for this) until we start shipping the keyboard. The Type C connector is *much* stronger than the old micro b 3.0 connector, something we've wanted to switch to for quite a while now (no need for epoxy anymore).
I don't anticipate any delays due to the Type C connector as we've been working on using it for the KType (and other misc projects) since May last year.
Apr 22, 2016
Eidorian
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Apr 22, 2016
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Will the epoxied versions that just shipped still be reliable and strong?
Apr 22, 2016
dogelition_man
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Apr 22, 2016
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So will the next drop of the WhiteFox also have Type C?
Apr 22, 2016
HaaTa
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Apr 22, 2016
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Yes. They are still strong (took us a while to get that just right). Moving to the Type C reduces chance for errors in the manufacturing process (and the cables are more awesome).
Apr 22, 2016
HaaTa
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Apr 22, 2016
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This is currently undecided.
Apr 22, 2016
chrisarcand
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Apr 22, 2016
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Whoa whoa; Does this mean that the cases in this new drop won't be compatible with the previous one? I have a case I'm ordering with this now, and its spec'd for the drop that just finished. Should I cancel that? Help appreciated!
Apr 22, 2016
vypr
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Apr 22, 2016
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For those that already have the boards with micro B, is it possible to change to a C connector or is the spec different that it wouldn't work that way?
Apr 22, 2016
dragon788
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Apr 22, 2016
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The spec is fine (they are only using USB2.0 speeds even though it was a 3.0 connector), the issue is more around very tiny connections needing to be resoldered, and there were some stability/durability issues with the microUSB 3.0 connectors that were used, which is why extra soldering and epoxy were required for stability. I'm going to attempt to convert one from USB 3 to USB-C, but I'm ordering one with C from the factory just in case I end up with a hot mess and have to do scary things to get it working again.
Apr 22, 2016
HaaTa
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Apr 22, 2016
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If you have the right cable, you can totally connect an old style USB micro B to Type C. This is more important for the upcoming KType (yes, interconnect works with the KType), but you should only need Type A to Type C and Type A to Micro B 3.0 cables.
We didn't change the Type A connector on the Ergodox because it requires more circuitry to have both connectors Type C (as well as additional firmware and bootloader support).
Apr 22, 2016
vypr
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Apr 22, 2016
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I actually meant changing the micro B receptacle to a Type-C receptacle
Apr 22, 2016
HaaTa
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Apr 22, 2016
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Oh, yeah, that's...tricky. I don't think I'd attempt that... Even if you managed to succeed somehow, I don't think it'll be strong enough because the footprint of the shielding posts is not the same.
Apr 22, 2016
vypr
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Apr 22, 2016
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ah ok, not a big deal thanks for replying so quickly :)
Apr 22, 2016
aust_sch
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Apr 23, 2016
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So for the ergodox shipment that just went out, were the usb receptacles reinforced. i am quite worried
Apr 23, 2016
LinuCC
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Apr 23, 2016
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Yes, it was mentioned in the description of the previous drop that they strengthened it by adding some epoxy.
Apr 23, 2016
HaaTa
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Apr 23, 2016
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AFAIK, we've had no USB issues since we started putting epoxy on them. I'm just paranoid about this sort of thing.
Apr 23, 2016
aust_sch
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Apr 23, 2016
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yah...im a bit bummed that they didn't just put usb c on this one... i would have waited if i knew that was going to be changed.
Apr 23, 2016
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