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Ir164
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Nov 6, 2016
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Is trying out different configurations and layouts cumbersome? Do you have to remove the keycaps every time you want to flash a different firmware? How long does the whole operation take? Are there risks of physical dammages when you repeat it?
Nov 6, 2016
nnc-tlb
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Nov 6, 2016
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If the online configurator is suffice for you it's very easy. Flashing each half takes only a few seconds, preparation takes more time.
Depending on how tight your switches and keycaps are you can open the switch during pulling keycaps or even destroying the switch if you are using wrong keypuller or wrong technique.
With blank keycaps no need to remove the keycaps. With legends on a DSA profile you are able to resort for non-QWERTY layout. With SA or DCS you are pretty much stuck with QWERTY because different profiles for different rows.
Nov 6, 2016
Ir164
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Nov 6, 2016
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Thank you for your detailed answer. I was not actually worried about changing the position of the keycaps as I plan to use blank keycaps :). I think I remember reading about the fact that flashing the firmware meant pressing a physical switch that is not accessible from the outside of the keyboard (hence maybe requiring to remove keycaps and/or parts of the plate). I was wondering about the details of the procedure. Do you need to press such a switch? Is it some kind of hidden switch on the PCB or simply one of the regular key switches?
Nov 6, 2016
nnc-tlb
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Nov 6, 2016
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There is a hole on the backside, through that with a pin you can press the button on the pcb. Or with default layout you can enter flashmode just with pressing layer-2 + flash (key).
Nov 6, 2016
Ir164
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Nov 6, 2016
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That is a relief thank you! I feared that I would have to remove so many things every time I wanted to try a new layout.
Nov 6, 2016
SamPittman
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Nov 7, 2016
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In an older version of the keyboard, there was no hole on the bottom to access the physical "flash" button. Therefore, owners were advised to reconfigure the keyboard once while the circuit board was out of the case, by pushing the physical flash button and defining a key as a "flash key". Thereafter you could just press the "flash key" to reconfigure the keyboard, instead of having to push the physical flash button. Older advice about the keyboard describes this process, and you may be seeing such older advice sometimes.
As @Ir164 described, Massdrop has added a hole in the bottom of the case, so you can now reach the physical flash button with a toothpick or paperclip, etc. You don't have to worry about the case blocking the button now. The old warnings about that can be safely ignored.
I was pleasantly surprised by this feature in the previous drop. I was actually preparing to drill a hole in the case when I discovered that the hole was already present!
---- Correction: It was @nnc-tlb who described the new hole in the backside of the board.
Nov 7, 2016
nnc-tlb
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Nov 7, 2016
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This new discussion layout gets people confused who says what to whom ;-)
Nov 7, 2016
SamPittman
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Nov 7, 2016
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Yes, at this time it is unbelievable that they don't have a display of threaded discussions, and a good search tool.
Nov 7, 2016
Ir164
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Nov 7, 2016
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This is interesting. I'm not going crazy after all ^^ Does the full hand extension have that hole to access the button?
Nov 7, 2016
SamPittman
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Nov 8, 2016
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Alas, I do not have the full-hand extension.
Nov 8, 2016
nnc-tlb
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Nov 8, 2016
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It looks nobody with the full hand extension bothering the current drop. So if there is no hole, include always a key combo for entering flash mode or drill a hole in the backside.
Nov 8, 2016
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