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ioana
11
May 6, 2015
Any updates on the drop? Everything going as planned ?
Kaan
297
May 6, 2015
ioanaI heard/got the impression that the pcb is going to delay things 1-2 weeks, I'm not certain tho, it's just something I deducted from online discussions about infinity
Khalki
37
May 6, 2015
KaanIf this is the case it should be really be posted by official massdrop representatives.
Kaan
297
May 7, 2015
KhalkiBetter late then never :) It would be great if massdrop could send PCB-mount switches, the keyboard really needs PCB-mounted switches Edit: the launch could be in the next couple of days, the v1 I bought had a PCB issue, they said the replacement could ship in the next couple of days, so there is that
Khalki
37
May 7, 2015
KaanI wonder if this issue would present itself with Matias switches.
unphased
9
May 7, 2015
KaanLooking at the photos in this drop and here:
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I don't see how pcb mounted switches having the extra pins would even fit onto the pcb here which do not come with two pin holes on the bottom side of the switches.
Plus the steel plate is for mounting the keys onto. And isn't plate mounting more desirable anyway?
Victor_L
44
May 7, 2015
unphasedOriginal round (dunno about this one but I'd assume so) does have the PCB mount holes. I did plate-mount only switches on one of mine and matias on the other and both worked fine, though.
Kaan
297
May 7, 2015
unphasedplate mount + 2 feet = pcb mount, so pcb mount is always better, you can cut the 2 feet and make them plate mounts anytime you want, the pcb has holes
After 3 days of extensive modifications, I finally made my v1 infinity work, even with the pcb-mount switches, the switches aren't perfectly aligned, the plate mount had extreme alignment issues, the pcb-mount remake looks very very good (I de-soldered the keyboard, carved the 60% case, modded the switches, re-tried like 10 times, finally made it work, currently it's just perfect) (the one advantage of the infinity plate is the switch top removability, most plates doesn't allow this, I made use of it once, otherwise I would have to open the case once more, but I would rather have a stiff plate that aligns the switches perfectly) (many of the issues I worked around are fixed in the newer versions, I just hope there are plate improvements too)
So far, the only minor issue is the 1u Delete at the top, I couldn't get used to it yet :) (Didn't even attempt to try the 1.5u Delete default setup)
On the plus side, there are no keypress issues, hopefully there will never be
Last 3 days drained all my life energy, when I regain some of it, I'm going to create a function layer for media controls etc.
I suffered a lot, I wouldn't want anyone to suffer the way I did, so please feel free to ask any edge questions about this keyboard
Some suggestions: 1) Fortify the usb-connector with macgyver methods when you receive the keyboard, make sure it fits in the 60% case with the modifications, so it doesn't break in the future 2) Make sure the 60% case you have doesn't press on infinity's diodes, if it does, carve the case 3) Make sure each switch is perfectly aligned and lodged before you solder them 4) Since the configurator doesn't work, if you have the technical knowledge, try to compile the firmware yourself beforehand, it's as simple as "./infinity.bash" when you install the required libraries Edit-5) You have to push the costar stabiliser guides as further as they go, otherwise they rub to the insert, hopefully this is a v1 issue too, once moved, I haven't experienced any stabiliser issues, they are very smooth, I would even consider them perfect, this might even be a bug-became-feature thing
tybenz
35
May 7, 2015
KaanI've compiled the firmware with "./infinity.bash" from the kiibohd project. Wondering what you had to do to get the 1u Delete vs. the 1.5u default.
Kaan
297
May 8, 2015
tybenzI currently edit Scan/MD1/defaultMap.kll - which is probably not the right way to do it, however for now, it works very well, I will attempt to create a function layer soon
(The macbook I used to do these things shut down unexpectedly once, I couldn't track how/when it happened and whether it's related to the dfu-util usage etc. please let me know if anyone else experiences something similar too, otherwise I was going to move things to my main mac)
Edit: I also changed the rightmost keys to "Up","Left","Down","Right" and the 1u rightmost key to RShift, I really love this layout, also got used to the 1u Delete after using it for an hour or so, started loving the keyboard, I really really hope it continues this way
Sigmoid
15
May 8, 2015
KaanCould you explain how the plate mount switches had "alignment problems"?! You're supposed to solder the whole thing with the switches snugly sitting in the panel... It's really unclear what you mean.
Kaan
297
May 8, 2015
SigmoidNormally the plate's have perfect squares that you integrate the switches, the infinity has a looser squares and some corner nudges that's supposed to hold the switch, however in the end the infinity plate can't lock the switches perfectly
Additionally: i) The plate is 1mm short from the left-side in my opinion ii) The v1 60% plate is missing the 6th/rightmost screw hole, probably by design, there's place to put the 6th hole, I considered drilling the plate myself, but decided not to
Imagine an X/Y/Z axis in your mind, normally the switch should angle 0/0/0 with this axis, with 0/0/0 X/Y/Z displacements, however since the plate doesn't lock the switches well, the switches end up being crooked and very slightly displaced
TL;DR: The switches have too much wiggle space, they should have 0
With pcb mounted switches and extreme care, I managed to improve the end result a lot, however still some switches have <1mm X axis displacements, better than both X/Y displacements and Z crooks tho, with pcb-mounts, the issue is a minor issue
(A lot of people reported alignment issues in the past discussions, this turns out to be the cause)
Comparatively, a WASD V2 I have, has 0 placement issues (not comparing the keyboards, just comparing the plates)
One the plus side, the plate is very hefty, looks beautiful, it would have been great if it wasn't designed for switch top removal, which causes these issues, for little to no gain
Khalki
37
May 10, 2015
KaanI believe that those corner judges is what allows the board to be matias compatible.
Jarz
46
May 10, 2015
KhalkiIt also what allows us to disassemble the switch without removing it from the plate and board. Exciting because we can switch out stems and springs without having to disassemble the whole board.
Khalki
37
May 10, 2015
JarzYes, they are also used for that. If you see the post that @Kaan posted (http://builder.swillkb.com/), when you see the switch type with the notches it reads (for those who are wondering):
"This is the default and recommended switch cutout. It balances features with affordability since it is less expensive to cut than any of the other openable cutouts. This opening allows for MX switches to be opened without desoldering and is also Alps compatible."
So the board really needs to have those notches for the people who would like to use Matias switches. I wonder if we can disassemble matias switches too.
Jarz
46
May 11, 2015
KhalkiFor anyone curious about how the alternative cutouts look (the last one is the infinity):
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