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Monc
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Oct 26, 2020
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I am assuming it is a Seagull movement? It certainly looks very similar to Seagull. For what its worth, my experience with Seagull has been excellent. They keep time very well—I have to adjust mine only two or three times a year. If the quality on this watch is similar, its a real bargain at this price.
Oct 26, 2020
RayF
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Oct 26, 2020
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Monc How have you come to that conclusion? I haven't found a picture of the movement on Ingersoll's or anyone else's site. Ingersoll simply lists the movement as "automatic." The Amazon listing says essentially the same thing (if you toss out mention of the included battery). Are you going off the dial?
Oct 26, 2020
Monc
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Oct 26, 2020
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RayFIt’s a tentative hypothesis, based on the photograph. It may not be a Seagull movement at all.
Oct 26, 2020
CEF1
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Oct 26, 2020
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MoncDid a little research and found this. https://iknowwatches.com/ingersoll-watches-review%E2%80%8B/. Looks like watch #2. And it states that the movement is swiss, but I am not sure I believe that. A manufacturer with a swiss automatic movement would likely state that. Everything else I checked just notes it's an unsourced automatic. Buyer beware.
Oct 26, 2020
RayF
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Oct 26, 2020
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CEF1 Holly cow! Some one finally found a watch site that knows less about watches than MD--and it was you! You'd think a site that calls itself "I Know Watches" would actually know shit about watches though, wouldn't you? Take it from me (some guy on the internet), there is no way in hell any Ingersoll ships with, is sold with, or can even spell "Swiss Movement!" And by the way--there's nothing to beware about--it's just a damn Ingersoll. They tick, they work, they tell time. If that's what you're looking for in a watch, this one fits the bill.
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Oct 26, 2020
RayF
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Oct 26, 2020
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Monc Yeah, I know this guy in Washington with a "tentative hypothesis" that goes like this: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” I'm thinking your "tentative hypothesis" is right up there with his ;- )
Oct 26, 2020
Monc
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Oct 26, 2020
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RayFMaybe. All I can tell you is, take “Ingersoll” off that watch and replace it with “Seagull,” and you have something that looks identical to what I am wearing on my wrist right now. Maybe Ingersoll’s watch is an homage to Seagull’s design. But that seems really unlikely, given the nature of Seagull’s business. Brands like Rolex receive homage designs. Brands like Seagull don’t. So I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to imagine the possibility that the guts of the Ingersoll watch are the same as the Seagull watch I am wearing. Since Seagull makes the vast majority of inexpensive mechanical watch movements in the world market, my hypothesis seems a bit more secure than that of Mr. Trump. But hey, believe what you want. I don’t know for sure what’s inside that Ingersoll watch, but the odds really are that its a Seagull movement.
Oct 26, 2020
RayF
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Oct 26, 2020
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Monc Perhaps an unbranded one?
Oct 26, 2020
Monc
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Oct 26, 2020
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RayFSo anyway, the logic behind my initial, tentative, hypothetical question goes like this:
  1. Seagull makes about 25% of the total global market of inexpensive mechanical watch movements available in lower end mechanical watches today;
  2. Ingersoll’s watch advertised here is a lower end mechanical watch;
  3. Ingersoll’s watch looks superficially very similar to watches made and sold directly by Seagull;
  4. Therefore it is a reasonable hypothesis, although hardly a certainty, that the Ingersoll watch sold here is built around a Seagull movement.
I asked the question because it seems quite likely that someone here, although not it appears you, might actually know the answer. If the Infersoll watch advertised here IS built around a Seagull movement, then at $125 its a decent bargain. Equivalent Seagull watches typically cost 30-40% more than that. Of course, it might not be. But that’s why I posed the question. Caveat emptor. Hopefully that answers your question.
Oct 26, 2020
Monc
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Oct 26, 2020
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RayFQuite possibly. Much of Seagull’s business is to sell movements that are incorporated into bodies sold by other companies.
Oct 26, 2020
RayF
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Oct 26, 2020
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Monc Each of the Ingersolls we've dealt with so far on this site have used Miyota movements, but in those instances the maker was easier to track down because either the cases had observation backs or the site (this one or Ingersoll's) stated the brand. I'm not sure whether Miyota makes a movement with a power reserve indicator (I looked and couldn't find one), and on that basis, and the rather obscene thickness of this one's case, your hypothesis is as good as any other--until we open one up. I nominate you!
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Oct 26, 2020
Monc
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Oct 26, 2020
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RayFRay—thank you. This is helpful.
Oct 26, 2020
CEF1
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Oct 31, 2020
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RayFNot so sure about the "They tick, they work, they tell time" part. I bought an Ingersol for my son (he liked the look, not sure where he got his watch eye, but it wasn't from me), and it worked for a few months, then the movement stopped working. Almost no reserve time at all. Agreed about the Swiss thing, just passing along the interesting crap I find on some of these sites. I don't ever claim that they are correct, just relaying the info!
Oct 31, 2020
RayF
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Oct 31, 2020
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CEF1 First Ingersoll failure report so far. Did you get a replacement?
Oct 31, 2020
CEF1
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Oct 31, 2020
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RayFLOL. Not sure what my son did with it. He had the receipts for it, so he may have gotten it replaced I decided not to go with Ingersol for a replacement so Igot him an Orient Kamasu instead (fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me), and my old Samsung Galaxy Watch 2.
Oct 31, 2020
RayF
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Dec 3, 2020
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CEF1 Nice--you're spoiling the poor kid!
Dec 3, 2020
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