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Featuring the same design, but now produced with an updated mold and tooling, the stock Invyr Panda switches make their long-awaited return. Featuring ivory colored housings with black, factory-lubed linear stems, these switches are super satisfying Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downSpencerL
2946
keeb weeb
Nov 7, 2019
Stickied
Hi guys,
I'm excited to say that I've been working closely with the original manufacturer for the OG INVYR Pandas. We've been talking about bringing back Pandas for a while now, given the popularity of Holy pandas in the community for the past year. One big complaint we had with our offering back in December was the criticism of the factory lube. Since the original Pandas were created with the basis of creating the smoothest linear, lube was applied on the stem as part of the process of manufacturing the switch.
The manufacturer initially offered to re-release Holy Pandas in another run (that is, Halo stems inside INVYR Panda housings), given the success of it back last December. However, given a few factors such as - the fulfillment time behind opening each Panda switch and replacing with a Halo stem, as well as lubing the stem (yikes!), were stuff that I wanted to avoid.
As a huge fan of Holy Pandas myself, I figured the best compromise would be to offer the 2 switches together in one drop and allow the community to assemble the switches themselves. Most of us enjoy spending time tinkering with franken-switching, lubing, or spring swapping so why not stem swap? Plus, you are able to control what and how much lube you want to apply to the Halo stem yourself.
Regarding the updated changes to the INVR Panda linear switch, I understand many will voice their opinion on why we're offering it, or how much different they are compared to the OG run. The manufacturer has told me that the tooling and molds initially used in the December run of Holy Pandas were exhausted due to sheer amount of volume that they didn't expect. The life of these molds were old and far past repair so as a new set was created to produce these new "revised" INVYR pandas, which offer the same design and similar material. They were also tested with stem swapping with Halos and are indeed as tactile as other offering of Pandas and clones.
Enjoy :)
TurtleDude29
0
Nov 11, 2019
You can sell the unholy pandas its the same price if u get 2 switches
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ottodokto
119
Nov 7, 2019
Stickied
There seems to be a lot of misinformation regarding what is a "Holy Panda", what materials it's made from, and the whole issue with pre-lubing. If you're angry about the "pre-lubing" on the switches, please read the original GB page on GH, c. 2016.
These are Invyr panda switches. These aren't Holy Pandas. You can make your own holy pandas by adding the option to include halo true switches, and taking them apart to put the halo stem inside the panda housing.
The original pandas were somewhat substandard for a linear, even attested to by Quakemz, the original guy who invented the holy panda:
"The lubing was incomplete and inconsistent, the switch was not very smooth at all, and there was even a very mild and awkward bump at the bottom of the press; very awkward for a switch costing $0.64-$1 USD/each, depending on quantity and vendor. This was all during a time when Gateron was really shining in value, Kailh hadn’t yet revamped their factory, and the market didn’t have retooled Cherry MX Blacks or Tealios, etc." They come with some lube since the whole point of the Invyr panda was a linear switch that came prelubed and didn't need further tuning. Obviously, they somewhat failed at their original purpose, and the real breakthrough was when Quakemz put a halo true stem in the panda housing, creating the holy panda. Even with YOK/GSUS pandas, they come prelubed, but that doesn't matter, since you're gonna be pulling the panda stem out and swapping it with a halo stem anyway. Novelkeys YOK pandas are about $0.55 per switch. If I buy 70 pandas from NK, that's $38.5. Factoring shipping, which is around $8.50 for me, that's about $47 for pandas alone. The upside of this is that NK pandas are already in-stock, which means that you don't have to wait. On Drop, these pandas are roughly $0.57 per switch, and including $2.75 shipping, that's $42.75. There's not really a huge difference in terms of pricing, so if you want Invyr pandas, or maybe don't like the colors of the NK YOK pandas in stock, or are patient, then maybe these are for you. Regardless, you're gonna have to buy halo switches from Drop (unless you have some laying around/from mechmarket). EDIT, FURTHER CLARIFICATION: Due to the confusion on what exactly is a panda switch:
The original GB for Invyr pandas on geekhack used POM as their material of choice. These switches are as close as you can get to the original "OG" Panda, which was a Halo True stem in an Invyr housing. The confusion arises from the fact that the Massdrop Holy Pandas sold last year (the ones that came prelubed) had a polycarbonate top and nylon bottom. The original Invyr Pandas did use a non-transparent polycarbonate top housing, and a nylon blend bottom. (Source from Mech27, Source on bottom)
"The lubing was incomplete and inconsistent, the switch was not very smooth at all, and there was even a very mild and awkward bump at the bottom of the press; very awkward for a switch costing $0.64-$1 USD/each, depending on quantity and vendor. This was all during a time when Gateron was really shining in value, Kailh hadn’t yet revamped their factory, and the market didn’t have retooled Cherry MX Blacks or Tealios, etc." They come with some lube since the whole point of the Invyr panda was a linear switch that came prelubed and didn't need further tuning. Obviously, they somewhat failed at their original purpose, and the real breakthrough was when Quakemz put a halo true stem in the panda housing, creating the holy panda. Even with YOK/GSUS pandas, they come prelubed, but that doesn't matter, since you're gonna be pulling the panda stem out and swapping it with a halo stem anyway. Novelkeys YOK pandas are about $0.55 per switch. If I buy 70 pandas from NK, that's $38.5. Factoring shipping, which is around $8.50 for me, that's about $47 for pandas alone. The upside of this is that NK pandas are already in-stock, which means that you don't have to wait. On Drop, these pandas are roughly $0.57 per switch, and including $2.75 shipping, that's $42.75. There's not really a huge difference in terms of pricing, so if you want Invyr pandas, or maybe don't like the colors of the NK YOK pandas in stock, or are patient, then maybe these are for you. Regardless, you're gonna have to buy halo switches from Drop (unless you have some laying around/from mechmarket). EDIT, FURTHER CLARIFICATION: Due to the confusion on what exactly is a panda switch:
The original GB for Invyr pandas on geekhack used POM as their material of choice. These switches are as close as you can get to the original "OG" Panda, which was a Halo True stem in an Invyr housing. The confusion arises from the fact that the Massdrop Holy Pandas sold last year (the ones that came prelubed) had a polycarbonate top and nylon bottom. The original Invyr Pandas did use a non-transparent polycarbonate top housing, and a nylon blend bottom. (Source from Mech27, Source on bottom)
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ottodokto
119
Aug 22, 2020
AllsurrenderGiven the recent holy panda debacle I'm not sure myself at this point, but given that these are made by Invyr and not drop, they might be
ThatsBangarang
68
Nov 11, 2019
You might as well since none of you are answering any of the real questions people justifiably have. I’ve already called out some contradictions here myself.
erickong
7412
Mech Keys Moderator
Nov 11, 2019
ThatsBangarangI don't work for Drop. I just moderate the site for fun. I can't really answer questions dealing with product releases, why things are being done a certain way, etc.
fer.real
528
Keyboard Club Member
Jan 23, 2020
I'm patiently waiting for the email that says Drop can't ship on time, doesn't have them in the warehouse because production isn't finished and there was no way for them to possibly let us know before the ship date.
Prove me wrong.
NapoleonBLVD
2
Jan 25, 2020
sweet! thanks man. I'm also trying to check with support right now. Any luck with yours?
phazeshifta
37
Nov 7, 2019
Can I ask what the point of this product is? The Invyr Panda's weren't ever considered good switches by themselves. They were good when paired with the Halo True stems, making them into Holy Panda's. Did you guys forget that you (yes, you Drop) actually sell Holy Pandas without needing to buy 2 different switches to make these switches?
bODO
111
Nov 7, 2019
phazeshiftawhy more profits off one sale when we can make profits off two sales? -Drop
Woikoi
12
Jan 27, 2020
I think it says that for most people. I contacted Drop and was told this through an email,
"I understand this was supposed to have shipped already. I just flagged this to our logistics team and they will be looking into it shortly. Because of how most runs are structured, we depend on our vendors/suppliers to send out products on the agreed upon time. While in the majority of cases this works out, delays on a given run or shipment can happen for a number of reasons. I know this situation is far from ideal, if you don't want to wait any longer I can get your order cancelled with a full refund if you'd like, just let me know if you decide to take that route."
So it doesn't seem like drop has gotten them from their vendor . I guess if you don't feel like waiting for it you can get a refund, which is nice.
SpencerL
2946
keeb weeb
Nov 7, 2019
Lube is on all Pandas and clones that have been out on the market. With your logic of sticking lube, then it should be true that all Holy Pandas ever created has lube on them - stem or housing.
It is not a solution, I never stated that. It's an alternative - and we're not blaming the factory, we're passing on the information about the process. If it was easy to get "someone else" to manufacture Panda switches, wouldn't you think we would have done that already? There is only one that has the molds and tooling to do it, and we already are working with him - hence, this drop :)
wowremy
266
Nov 10, 2019
You keep spouting that crap like you dont understand how stem lube rubs onto the housing. IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER IF ITS JUST THE STEM, BECAUSE THE STEM TOUCHES THE HOUSING YOU DOLT.
kurotc
49
Nov 7, 2019
Base 70 set is about $0.57 per switch. Why not just get the YOK trash pandas from novelkeys for $0.55 per switch and no wait, aside from housing color?
TheTaggerung
138
Nov 7, 2019
Quite the opposite, actually. He seems to enjoy sowing discord and destruction across these virtual halls. As with most people on the internet, the veil of anonymity is a powerful tool in emboldening those who would dare not step out of line in the mortal realm.
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