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julesallen
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Nov 30, 2017
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I keep seeing these smaller keyboards go by and the comments have been so valuable, thank you all. I've got the Code tenkeyless and really like it but ideally I'd like a slightly smaller form factor as I've got a standing desk that's really tiny by design (it's basically designed to hold a laptop and not much else).
What keyboard should I be on the lookout for? 1) Smaller than a regular tenkeyless; 2) has real dedicated arrow keys (hugely important to me); 3) Mac compatible; 4) Standard size keycaps 5) Not those ungodly gamer keyboard 70's computer show typefaces
I suppose its a given that it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. This one almost made it if it wasn't for #4. Thanks for any input you might have.
Nov 30, 2017
hypersprite
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Dec 2, 2017
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You might want to look at the Pok3r (including RGB) and new Poker II (2017) 60% keyboards. 1) 60% is smaller than tenkeyless or the kb in this drop. I have mine setup with a Yoda (original) layout which keeps my hands on the home row for almost everything, so it's great for typing/coding. 2) Both versions can be setup with dedicated arrows using the Shift/Fn/Meta/RCtrl (the older one does it by keyboard commands, the new one does it by dip switch). Just tested this on my Pok3r RGB pressing Win/Space/RAlt and it worked, then switched it back because I've already got Fn/ijkl and Fn/wasd set to arrows and don't need any more. Finding keycaps that have arrows for those positions would be a different story though. 3) I have used it with a Mac and it worked but I did not try swapping the Win and Alt keys (they work, they are just in the wrong place). The Poker II has a dip switch for this. I know the Poker II does not have Mac multimedia functionality, I am not sure about the older Pok3r, I don't have a Mac currently to test it with but don't see any reason why the keys can't be swapped. 4) Has standard key sizes. Any of the Massdrop keycap sets will work with the basic Alpha and modifier set, no need for extended sets etc. I have two Pok3rs, one running SA 1965 (tall and sculpted) and another running Canvas XDA (low and flatish), they fit and look great. 5) I would not even worry about what keycaps it comes with (honestly I see so much griping in Massdrop discussions about the keycaps a board comes with, I would rather they save me $20 bucks and keep their caps). What you really want to make sure of is that the switches take cherry compatible keycaps so you can get anything you want. You're on Massdrop, it won't be long before a keycap set comes up you just have to have (frankly, I don't have enough keyboards for all the caps I want, lol). Have you considered Switch Type? I think that's more important that stock keycaps. I would start there, that's probably going to be a bigger determination of if you like using it.
Anyway, food for thought.
Dec 2, 2017
PixelFruitloops
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Dec 2, 2017
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Take a look a the Tada68, it would fit your needs.
Dec 2, 2017
julesallen
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Dec 2, 2017
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Awesome! Thank you so much @PixelFruitloops.
Dec 2, 2017
julesallen
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Dec 2, 2017
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Wow that's a lot of info — thank you @hypersprite! What's your thoughts on the Keywalker (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/keywalker-68-bluetooth-mechanical-keyboard)? And as the Cherry's are an option on this my Gospeeds (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-xda-godspeed-custom-keycap-set ironically named because God only knows how long it's taking to get them) should fit with no problem, right?
Dec 2, 2017
hypersprite
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Dec 2, 2017
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For the Keywalker, I would go through the comments and see if there's anything you can/can't live with/without, seems like a good price. There was a question about swapping the Win/Alt, you might want to investigate that a little further if that is a factor. Have you looked at this https://www.massdrop.com/talk/2784/mechanical-keyboards-101-an-introduction-to-the-hobby (you probably have but just in case). I like that Godspeed set, especially the orange, I let that one go because I'm already waiting on two other keycap sets that I don't even have keyboards for.
Dec 2, 2017
julesallen
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Dec 2, 2017
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Thanks for that link, that's super useful.
Dec 2, 2017
HotRoderX
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Dec 3, 2017
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Sadly your number 4 pick and number 2 pick can't co-exist. There a one or the other situation and in the rare chance you do find standard keycap's your sacrificing keys. Those key's are typically your <>? key's.
Given what your looking for assuming you don't mind building it your self. I highly recommend KBD75 https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keyboard/products/kbd75-keyboard-set which should meet most your desires and 95% its mac compatible.
Dec 3, 2017
julesallen
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Dec 3, 2017
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Thanks for that. I'm not bad with a soldering iron but would have to invest in one. This is a pretty sweeeeet layout. The Tex Yoda2 underneath now has my undivided attention (https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keyboard/products/tex-yoda2-diy-kit). I get that the caps that come with it are the only choice unless I find the dremel I suppose.
So. Many. Choices.
Dec 3, 2017
n1ck
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Dec 4, 2017
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I would say that the layout like the Clueboard comes really close to it, and tbh, 1.75u right shift isn't that rare anymore.
Dec 4, 2017
HotRoderX
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Dec 4, 2017
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thats true but its not standard I didn't want to be misleading cause standard key kit won't fit cause of the 1.75u shift. Though wish wish they just make them a standard option in all offerings. Cause 99% of the time the only key thats not standard on a board is that 1.75u shift
Dec 4, 2017
julesallen
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Dec 5, 2017
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Thanks to all of you. Appreciate the comments, I went with the Keywalker 68 in the end. I'm sure it's the beginning of a wallet-emptying obsession. New keycaps here I come!
Dec 5, 2017
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