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Kasumi Titanium-Coated Knives

Kasumi Titanium-Coated Knives

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Since the mid-13th century, Seki City has been the cutlery hub of Japan. Manufactured in Seki City, these kitchen knives are as aesthetically pleasing as they are functional Read More

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Spencerian
1
Jul 9, 2018
Anybody know if the ti coating coupled with the steel sharpened edge amplifies the corrosion on the Galvanic (noble) corrosion scale? It’s typical of bimetallic coupling, where One functions as an anode, while the other functions as a cathode. Several factors that may make this the crappiest high-priced blade of all-time: (1) plain old carbon steel, as opposed to a bragging rights such as VG10, SG2, branded name metal (2) large surface area of titanium vs small exposed sharpened area creating a galvanic difference to accelerate corrosion in the uncoated metal area (3) the sharpened edge of the blade creates an even higher energy point for corrosion, especially when left wet in the sink. Anybody please correct me if I’m wrong.
DSpeed
53
Jul 5, 2018
As a few others have said, this is equivalent to buying snake oil. I’ve found these knives for sale by several other distributers. None list the specific core steel, just saying that it’s a high carbon, molybdenum, vanadium stainless steel. In this day and age, almost all truly high end knives brag about the specific steel used. As someone else stated, I strongly suspect these are AUS-8 steel or similar at best. On some other sites, these knives are described as Japanese style and claim a 59 Rockwell hardness. 59 is on the low end for Japanese style kitchen knives. Japanese style kitchen knives are usually rated above 60HRC. The manufacturer claims the titanium coating makes the knives harder and sharper. That’s pure BS! There is no titanium at the cutting edge, only whatever mystery steel they use. Titanium is the ultimate corrosion resistant material, but that should be unneeded for a stainless steel kitchen knife. I believe the titanium coating is entirely for looks and there to try justifying the price. If all of this wasn’t enough, the handles are made from a cheap material. I could go on about why I think these are prettied up, mediocre at best, overpriced knives, but I think I’ve made my point.
DSpeedYup. A finely polished turd is still a turd. Spending>$100 on a knife with nonspecific steel is unwise.
sos0
46
Aug 2, 2017
cooking with aesthetics.
FriedShoe
188
Aug 1, 2017
Pretty much feels like a scam. The titanium will do nothing to make this knife perform better or worse and the type of steel used is not disclosed. I think this fits the definition of "snake oil".
According to this site (http://chefdepot.net/kasumi.htm) the steel is "High Carbon Molybdenum Vanadium Steel" at 59 HRC which often translates to AUS-8 or VG-5. Both are okay-ish steels but absolutely not worth the price.
Here's a Fujiwara FKM made with AUS-8 at $75: https://japanesechefsknife.com/collections/fujiwara-kanefusa-fkm-series/products/fujiwara-kanefusa-fkm-series-gyuto-japanesechefsknife-com?variant=28871168131
Bonus points, the Fujiwara is also shaped like a normal knife.
FriedShoe
188
Oct 4, 2017
The coating does not appear to extend down to the edge and so it's only aesthetic. Maybe it helps reduce scratch marks, but that hardly seems important.
Additionally, if it was covering the edge it may help with abrasion resistance but it's certainly not thick enough to prevent deformation of the edge, which is another concern for softer steels.
Icywolfe
137
Oct 4, 2017
FriedShoeThe coating should be covering the edge unless it's just for other uses like low friction. TiN is a fairly low friction coating and is used for metal on metal contact I suppose it can transfer over to foods but doubt it's worth paying. The coating for the edge doesn't need to be that thick though as it's only surface hardening. The coating doesn't even need to color the metal to surface hardening so I hope they sharpened then applied the coating but even then it will be no use once you yourself sharpen the blade.
Some SOG knives use this coating. A lot of JP cutting utensils use it on the metal to metal contact point. Not fully snake oil but it's just for that 1% betterment. Not sure what is that blue coat though it looks like basic steel surface hardening.
psiclone
405
Jul 27, 2017
I'm confused. What actually comes with the base price vs the adding and subtracting different options?
psicloneThe base price is for the 7.75"chef's knife that is pictured in the banner, all other options are less expensive. You can always click Join Drop to see what your total cost will be with shipping for any option in any drop. You are not required to enter any payment info to see the price.
BrainFlush
6860
Jul 26, 2017
Anyone think coated blades like this are good for a kitchen kitchen? :) And what's the steel?
thenotsogreatone
4
Jul 27, 2017
I cannot find any real information on the blade steel. One forum believes it's either something close to AUS-8 or VG-10 and it has a Rockwell of 59. They use VG-10 on their other knives. If it is either steel, corrosion is hardly an issue. This seems to be more sizzle than steak. I have a high carbon steel knife that is clad in non-corrosive steel, so the core is high-carbon and still needs the care that high-carbon knives do. But the maker clearly stated the type of steel it is.
sdfx
108
Jul 28, 2017
thenotsogreatoneGood question, I was wondering the same thing.. it only mentions the coating, but not what the core is. Worse case you'd just have to wipe it after use.
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