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mesiach_21

Sep 22, 2015

Ugh folks still waiting...Man it sucks. I hope the wait is just another week or so like the last update indicated.
My impressions after a week or so now with it are as follows:
1) Construction is solid, yet notably cheaper than the v60 minis or pokers. 2) The stock keycaps (non-dye sub) are junk mostly - not the worst keycaps I've seen but definitely the worst PBT caps I've seen. For the price though I can't complain. 3) The gateron switches I got (red) took a bit to get used to but are every bit as comfortable to type on as cherry mx reds. 4) The programming process was a bit difficult at first - thankfully there are some great people on this discussion and over at keychatter who helped a great deal. Once you get the hang of it, it's pretty nice - and the programmed keys and layers respond perfectly (like the board just came that way). I really liked that you could add as many layers as you want (just give yourself a consistent way to switch back within each layer).
5) An odd thing I found was the stabilizers are like costar but not the standard costar I'm used to seeing. It makes getting those keys back on a little more difficult and different keycaps can stick - seemingly because of these stabilizers.
Overall it's incredible value to me for the price I paid. They keycaps were a disappointment but I soon replaced those with some v60 mini caps and it looks and feels a lot better. Still fighting with the stabilizers on one shift key (causes it to stick) though.

Sep 22, 2015

AnthonyOoi

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Sep 23, 2015

mesiach_21Thanks for the review. Could you elaborate on the build quality? You mentioned it feels cheaper than the V60 and Poker (I have the Poker II while my brother has a V60), how so? Is it the case? The plate? The assembly?
Also, can anyone else confirm the stabilizer issue? I have quite a few different keycap sets and it would be disappointing if any of them don't fit right. Do you have some pictures of the stabilizer problem? Do you think it's an easy fix?
Thanks for helping! Hopefully I can cancel my order in time if the issues are serious.

Sep 23, 2015

mesiach_21

Sep 23, 2015

AnthonyOoiThe case and the plate - both contribute to a feeling that it just wasn't crafted as precisely. My plate specifically has a bunch of scuff marks and scratches on it - like they machined out the plate raw and didn't really finish it with any paint or any type of touch up. They keycaps on top of all that just contribute to a lower quality product.
I'll see if I can put up a pic of the stabilizers sometime tomorrow if not today. The only experience I have with costar stabilizers is with a WASD V1 (first mech I had - the rest have all been cherry stabilizers). On the WASD, the stabilizer bars were straight and snapped onto plastic clips on the plate from the top and they move freely 180 degrees on top of the plate. On the KC60, the stabilizers are bent on the long side so it forms a tab of sorts. The bent parts snap onto plastic clips from the side (facing bottom) and can only move about 45 degrees off their resting spot. This just makes it hard to get a keycap back on without taking the stabilizer off the clip, attaching the keycap, then getting a tool of some sort to push the stabilizer bar back into its clips while positioning the keycap correctly. You could take out the clips and do the whole assembly that way I suppose, but I doubt it would be easier - and the clips are really in there (unlike the WASD I had where they came out when i pulled the keycap off sometimes).
All that being said - I replaced all my keycaps with cherry mx caps and they all worked fine - the one shift key sticks a bit due to the stabilizer I think but I'm working with it. If you have cherry mx keycaps, I doubt you'll have too many issues getting them on.

Sep 23, 2015