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SantiagoDraco
611
Apr 11, 2017
So, who knows the "real" dimensions of these tents as the listed dimensions are clearly wrong (and as others have noted misleading). Are they measuring with stakes? (I wouldn't be surprised).
Unless I really suck at math (and I may) the quoted dimensions of 85"x70" = 42 sqft. The specs however say 39.2 sqft.
Size is important to me (I see you sniggering!) and I'd like to know the real dimensions before purchasing. Thanks!
rmzalbar
3
Apr 12, 2017
SantiagoDracoI have the TN2. The only way your calculation would be correct is if the floor were rectangular. It is not.
rmzalbar
3
Apr 12, 2017
SantiagoDracoOK, I got the math here now: You must be looking at the TN3. It's a trapezoid, wider at the head end than the feet end. So you have rectangle based on wide end: 84" x 70", /12, /12 = 40.833. Based on narrow end: 84" x 64", /12, /12 = 37.33. Linear change in one dimension only, so average: 40.833 + 37.333 = 78.166, /2 = 39.083. Pretty close. That's not the simplest way to calc a trapezoid, but perhaps a bit more intuitive
SantiagoDraco
611
Apr 12, 2017
rmzalbarAh, thanks rmzalbar. I had been operating on the assumption that the tent is a perfect rectangle... sure looks that way from the pictures ;)
rmzalbar
3
Apr 12, 2017
SantiagoDracoI really like my TN2. The materials and construction appear to be of high quality, and I've had it out several times. I felt it was roomy enough for myself and my girlfriend. However, it's the first backpacking-class tent I've owned, so I can't give a comparative review. I have heard of two issues with these tents. Some people have had the window delaminate from the fly, and had the tent repaired by Kelty; possibly a manufacturing defect that affected a particular run of tents; mine is very firmly attached. On the design side, I've seen reports that a flat triangle can be formed at the top of the tent in the center of where the three poles cross, which can support a puddle of water. I've only had the tent in light rain, so I have no personal experience with this.
SantiagoDraco
611
Apr 13, 2017
rmzalbarI saw that as well (re the rain issue).
I'm trying to decide if I want to go with the TN3 or TN2. I have two dogs, 50 and 55lb, and I plan on them sleeping in the tent with me on outings for a while until I can get them experienced enough to be outdoors (or might just always use a tent. So...my concern is the size of the 2 vs 3. I'm thinking that with the narrower end the 2 might not be roomy enough. I'd like to avoid the extra weight of the 3 but might not have a choice.... any thoughts on roominess on the 2? I'll be using an Exped DL7 (72x26.5) mat along with the two dogs.
Thanks!
rmzalbar
3
Apr 14, 2017
SantiagoDracoI found it comfortable enough with my girlfriend, and I think two dogs would be OK but they'd have to sleep tandem. Ultimately I feel like I'd want a 3-man tent if I had two dogs, just because three creatures are going to want a bit of wiggle. Plus you could give them dog packs to compensate for the extra ounces of weight. One thing that's not obvious is that it's not quite as long as you might like. I'm 6' and the foot of my bag basically has to touch the end. That's not necessarily a problem, due to the all mesh inner wall, but something to know beforehand. The walls at both ends are pitched steeply upward so it still feels roomy despite this. The TN2 is 6'11" but the TN3 is only an inch longer than that.
SantiagoDraco
611
Apr 14, 2017
rmzalbarMy thinking exactly. I am going to keep my TN3 order. As for packs I have two Ruffwear Palisades packs and the dogs will definitely be contributing to the load ;) I'm only 5'8" so length won't be a problem. Thanks for chiming in!
Elsid
697
Aug 8, 2017
SantiagoDracoHi, I've read a lot of reviews on these tents, and many people say that they purchased the 3 for 2 people, and many say they wished they had purchased the 3. From what I've read, people say the 3 is just right. Does anyone know how this tent does with codensation? Does anyone have any suggestions on water systems? Thanks. Ps. In the military, we had the one man canvas tents, and we would dig a trench and an out with a downward slope for rain management. Awe, the good ole days with heavy canvas and wood.
rmzalbar
3
Aug 8, 2017
ElsidIt's hard to say. On the negative side, the tent isn't very roomy and you may be touching the lower part of the inner wall more than you like. Also, there's a possibility for rain or moisture to pool overhead where a flat triangle forms on the outer roof. On the plus side, it's a vented two-wall tent and the inner wall, starting several inches from the floor on up, is all no-seeum mesh so ventilation is excellent and the mesh is not conducive to forming condensation. Also, the walls are steeply vertical near the floor due to the shape of the frame, so that helps. I don't recall having any issues, but remember it's not a cold-weather tent so you wouldn't be in sealed-up conditions or anything.
ElsidI always use the following "rule of thumb" when determining how large of a tent to use: 1) Is it my girlfriend or my dog = 2 man 2) Is it anyone else = 3 man
Not judging those that like to cuddle with their platonic camping partners :)