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Kamenramen
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Mar 29, 2017
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Russian made? No thanks. I'm not contributing a single penny to that Putin ruled country.
Vigrith
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenShame, they are exceptional headphones in every way. If you rather let politics you know very little about get in the way of your own personal enjoyment then I respect that, very selfless of you.
Have you ever been to Russia?
Have you ever been to Russia?
Krakencrow
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenNo one cares what you think. Its about headphones not politics. Triggered libtards stay away or keep your hate propaganda to yourselves.
wontonotnow
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenI wouldn't conflate this company with the Russian government too quickly. It reminds me of sanctions that hurt the citizens of a corrupt country instead of the corrupt leaders. That said, I don't know if Kennerton is a benevolent company or not, but they probably have nothing to do with the Putin regime. I definitely think we should hold Russian companies to task for any ethical issues they have, but on the same level as other companies around the Globe: The country the company hails from does not mean they agree or are culpable along with the government.
Kamenramen
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Mar 29, 2017
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wontonotnowI don't have anything against the Russian people overall. But buying a Russian made product means a WIN for Putin. All the hacking, the tapping, and murder...what is Putin's ultimate goal? To have Russia as a superpower, as a major trade country. Buying a Russian product brings Putin one step closer to that goal. I don't like to buy with politics in mind, but in this case, I HAVE TO.
Mo_hamhead
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Mar 29, 2017
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Kamenrameni say you go rant on facebook and leave the comments page for people interested in this product.
vukovicd
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenThis is not place for politic discussion, if you don't have anything useful to say about product then just skip commenting on it. This post should be removed.
wontonotnow
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenFair enough. It's commendable to apply your morals in your purchasing decisions. On that note, if we find a company that is publicly against their host government's corrupt regime, we should support them. I don't know how vocal companies can be in Russia, but I imagine it isn't very safe for them to speak their minds as other global companies can. I visited Moscow and St. Petersburg for a couple weeks, and can tell you for certain that there are a lot of people and companies that are against the regime...but they aren't in a position to take a stand against it, for fear of reprisal.
Vigrith
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenAgain, have you been to Russia? Are you from a country that has close ties to the Russian government and/or Putin's "reign" in general? If you're going off of the regular media your idea of what happens (or doesn't) in Russia and why may be extremely skewed. Would you refrain from buying American made products because of the way Trump handles politics? I don't mean to prolong the political debate here, matter of fact I will try and not comment further after this but things aren't all black and white.
I agree that Putin tries very hard to make people rely on his products (something that has happened before when for example he pulled tons/all Russian made products from lots of Finnish markets and people couldn't buy butter for a week) but Fischer Audio has been around forever, Kennerton is a ramification of that brand, you probably should not judge the entire country based on your perceived fable of what happens, especially in such a niche market as high-end audio is.
I agree that Putin tries very hard to make people rely on his products (something that has happened before when for example he pulled tons/all Russian made products from lots of Finnish markets and people couldn't buy butter for a week) but Fischer Audio has been around forever, Kennerton is a ramification of that brand, you probably should not judge the entire country based on your perceived fable of what happens, especially in such a niche market as high-end audio is.
Kamenramen
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Mar 29, 2017
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vukovicdI'm not trying to start a political discourse and I agree, this is no place to start one. However, Massdrop is commerce, and if I'm going to buy a product, I have to feel good about it. If I don't like a product, I have every right to say it, just as any Massdrop customer does.
vukovicd
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenYou just started political discussion as you can see. Your reasons not to like product are totally unrelated to product itself, so irrelevant to all unbiased Massdrop customers. Keep your political views for other places and judge product by its characteristics. Discussions like this are not "healty" for Massdrop bussiness.
Petronas44
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenYour neck seems a little to red for 700 dollar headphones may I suggest some speakers and duct tape
Kamenramen
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Mar 29, 2017
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Petronas44Mmmm...2 Users with slavic user names....too coincidental, me thinks. Guess Putin has his trolls in all aspects of the internet, especially when it comes to commerce.
vukovicd
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenSo now you have problem with Slavic usernames? Like it's not enough you starting political discussion here, now you have to show your racist attitude to Slavic people?
Vigrith
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenYour initial comment, whilst quite crass, had some basis to it - this one, however, does not. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by responding with reasonable arguments which you conveniently chose to ignore; now I know why.
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
AlexPk
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenAlright everyone. This conversation isn't offering anything for anyone so I'll be moderating or removing any further posts. Thanks.
Notarussianspy
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Mar 29, 2017
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KamenramenHi my name is Phil, and I like audio stuff (so you might say I'm an audioPHIL hehehe😉) but I was wondering if these Kennerton Valis would work well with my Sansa Clip 32gb?
Yakov
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Mar 29, 2017
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NotarussianspyAs a past owner of several generations of Sansa mp3's...
God no. Find something with more power.
God no. Find something with more power.
Motorrad
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Mar 29, 2017
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AlexPkWhy not just delete to whole conversation so people don't keep coming here to tell off a shitheel like krakencrow? There's nothing here anyway.
dalethorn
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May 13, 2017
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KamenramenWhat an absurd ridiculous assertion. Why don't you "care" people go look at U.S. history and the firebombing of Atlanta in 1864, firebombing of a hundred cities in WW2, firebombing of Iraq in GW1 and 2, etc. ad nauseam. You have no clue about history and the kinds of terror situations Putin has to deal with. There are bad things in the world, but your level of ignorance is appalling.
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