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Kuhn Rikon 4th Burner Pot (12 Cups)

Kuhn Rikon 4th Burner Pot (12 Cups)

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Designed for crowded kitchens and extensive meals, the 4th Burner Pot takes up little space (just 6 inches), but can easily heat up pasta, vegetables, soups, and more. Though tall, the stainless steel and aluminum construction allows the pot to heat evenly throughout Read More

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PrinaB
42
Jul 30, 2019
Thanks for catching the mistake in our copy. The construction of the body is stainless steel, the base of the pot has a thin layer of aluminum sandwiched between stainless steel for even heat distribution. The aluminum does not come into contact with the water or food.
reswright
3850
Aug 1, 2019
PrinaBThat sounds rather more industry standard. And thanks for updating the ad copy :)
reswright
3850
Jul 28, 2019
This is an asparagus steamer. Asparagus steamers work like this: you put a thin layer of water in the bottom, heat it up to boiling, then put food you want to steam in the basket, lower it in, put the lid on, and come back in a few minutes Because the top of the pot is so far from the burner relative to the size of the pot, you really can't efficiently heat water or use this thing like a stockpot or a pasta cooker the way some folks have asked. That's not what it's for, and by that I mean the pan material at the bottom is too thin to effectively transfer enough heat up the sides of the pan before it starts scorching whatever's touching the bottom of it, like stuck on pasta. You would want this pan to be close to twice as wide as it is before it'd be any good for boiling water for pasta or making stock or whatever. That's a practical reason to get something else if you have any plan on using this for other than steaming veggies. There's a second issue with this item that you might wish to be aware of: some folks think using aluminum cookware contributes to the risk of Alzheimer's. Short term studies have never demonstrated a link, but short term health studies, by definition, can't prove or disprove such a thing as a long term health risk. No long term longitudinal study has ever been done, mostly because the EPA and FDA do not pay for them because they don't have any money for them. The only people who would pay for it are in the aluminum industry for whom doing so would be lose-lose. By that, I mean the broad public assumption is currently that aluminum cookware is safe for humans to use - so the best the industry can do with a longitudinal study is to show that there is in fact no long term health risks to using aluminum cookware. In other words, they can only break even by proving it's as safe as people were already assuming it was. Any other results, even if they're inconclusive, will be bad news for them and they will have paid to make it happen, so, that's a no for them. When I looked at the amount of research that HASN'T been done on the long term effects of eating food prepared in aluminum cookware, and compared that to the specific things the industry groups are careful not to say about why they think aluminum is fine... I ended up getting rid of all my aluminum cookware. And I mean, I get it. People sometimes shrug this sort of thing off, they think 'whatever, I'm not getting rid of my cookware, I paid for that shit. And how could aluminum cookware be dangerous to your health? People use it all over the place!' You know, that's how folks think... like they did with subprime mortgages and Oxy Contin. The number of deadly-ass things that we once thought were awesome is enough to stagger the mind. Once upon a time people thought tobacco was not only safe but a bit of a cure-all. Same with cocaine. People used leaded gasoline and Thalidomide and DDT. And if you think that's bad, understand that people do this stuff with radioactive stuff too. There's a type of ceramic glaze that was very common in midcentury modern stuff that is hot enough to make a geiger counter sing four part harmony. People actually ATE radium tablets, this one dude was famous for selling them and he claimed he felt awesome right up to when he suddenly died. They did an autopsy his body was riddled with tumors and holes in his bones the size of silver dollars. He sure did make money selling radium tablets tho. Seems ridiculous to us, but that's the kind of monkeys we are from time to time. The truth is, people are bad at detecting long term risks because by definition their lives hopes and dreams take place during the detection period. Life has a way of distracting one's attention so people tend to after a while just look around, see what other people are doing, and figure it must be ok if they're all doing it. And every once in a while, that'll really bite you in the ass.
RayF
22220
Feb 16, 2019
Forget it--coffee grounds spill out of that filter and get all in your cup--needs much smaller holes!
splintercat
82
Jul 26, 2019
RayFCan't tell if you're trolling or not. I don't think this thing is meant for coffee.
RayF
22220
Jul 27, 2019
splintercatYou mean like:
  • fish by trailing a baited line along behind a boat?
  • gerund or present participle: trolling?
  • "we trolled for mackerel?"
No, I'm really not much for seafood.
Audog
27
Jan 2, 2019
Wife got me a 2 pack special on QVC for same price. Use it a lot and it is a nice pot for veggies.
JohninBrooklyn
5
Jan 2, 2019
Can this guy boil a pound of spaghetti without having to break them in half, or are they too long?
ddexter6
0
Oct 31, 2018
Just received mine and am surprised that the two I received are markedly different. One has a locking lid and a decorative matte like 3" band around the middle (both of which are shown in the pictures on the web site) the second pot does not have the decorative band and more annoyingly does not have a locking lid. The shipment was one box packed with the pots in separate boxes inside. The locking lid pot came in retail packaging the other was in a plain brown box with a larger sticker reading: "Do Not Open This is a Set"
ADVcyclist
141
Aug 15, 2018
Did anyone else receive one with the artisanal dent at the bottom? I mean, had they mentioned that there would be some added "patina" ... I might not be so annoyed.
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ADVcyclist
141
Aug 16, 2018
ADVcyclistI have submitted a claim to Massdrop Support about the dent and the poor-fitting lid. I literally can not seat the lid completely, lock it, and remove it. It's too tight and seems like the pot is out-of-round. Fix this Massdrop!
ADVcyclist
141
Aug 17, 2018
ADVcyclistSubmitted my third request for a claim to Massdrop with no response other than the automated reply of:
" Thanks for reaching out to Massdrop Community Support!Due to the nature of your inquiry, this ticket has been forwarded over to a specialized team to better assist you. Please note that this specialty team's days of operation are Monday through Friday.In the meantime, for a complete list of our policies and FAQ, please visit the Help Center at www.massdrop.com/helpcenter. "
waltk
16
Aug 7, 2018
Are you serious? Aluminum? No way.....
waltk
16
Aug 7, 2018
Thanks for explaining that. Its not clear in the description.
AJAugust
353
Aug 7, 2018
waltkYou're welcome... Actually, Massdrop just about fails to described at all :( That aluminum 'sandwich' is a feature and a really BIG DEAL!! I would not have joined this drop without doing some additional research. I, as you, would not have considered this 'pot' if it was something other than stainless steel coming in direct contact with my pasta and such :)
ffelton
4
May 25, 2018
I bought this a couple of years ago, amazon I think. For this price, on sale. Nice pot. Until I started steaming my hardboiled eggs this is what I used foe eggs once a week. I still use it (but a lot less) for pasta and asparagus mostly. Takes up little space, so it's good if you're using the burners with big pots. Well made too. In retrospect it's not something I'd buy again, just because it's too niche a pot for my uses.
Tambee
0
Apr 19, 2018
wondering if it's heavy enough to use on a camp stove......?
smallbit
1328
Jun 23, 2018
TambeeFor sure. It is not titanium. I think it is considered too heavy to backpack with.
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This is an asparagus steamer. Asparagus steamers work like this: you put a thin layer of water in the bottom, heat it up to boiling, then put food you want to steam in the basket, lower it in, put the lid on, and come back in a few minutes Because the top of the pot is so far from the burner relative to the size of the pot, you really can't efficiently heat water or use this thing like a stockpot or a pasta cooker the way some folks have asked. That's not what it's for, and by that I mean the pan material at the bottom is too thin to effectively transfer enough heat up the sides of the pan before it starts scorching whatever's touching the bottom of it, like stuck on pasta. You would want this pan to be close to twice as wide as it is before it'd be any good for boiling water for pasta or making stock or whatever. That's a practical reason to get something else if you have any plan on using this for other than steaming veggies. There's a second issue with this item that you might wish to be aware of: some folks think using aluminum cookware contributes to the risk of Alzheimer's. Short term studies have never demonstrated a link, but short term health studies, by definition, can't prove or disprove such a thing as a long term health risk. No long term longitudinal study has ever been done, mostly because the EPA and FDA do not pay for them because they don't have any money for them. The only people who would pay for it are in the aluminum industry for whom doing so would be lose-lose. By that, I mean the broad public assumption is currently that aluminum cookware is safe for humans to use - so the best the industry can do with a longitudinal study is to show that there is in fact no long term health risks to using aluminum cookware. In other words, they can only break even by proving it's as safe as people were already assuming it was. Any other results, even if they're inconclusive, will be bad news for them and they will have paid to make it happen, so, that's a no for them. When I looked at the amount of research that HASN'T been done on the long term effects of eating food prepared in aluminum cookware, and compared that to the specific things the industry groups are careful not to say about why they think aluminum is fine... I ended up getting rid of all my aluminum cookware. And I mean, I get it. People sometimes shrug this sort of thing off, they think 'whatever, I'm not getting rid of my cookware, I paid for that shit. And how could aluminum cookware be dangerous to your health? People use it all over the place!' You know, that's how folks think... like they did with subprime mortgages and Oxy Contin. The number of deadly-ass things that we once thought were awesome is enough to stagger the mind. Once upon a time people thought tobacco was not only safe but a bit of a cure-all. Same with cocaine. People used leaded gasoline and Thalidomide and DDT. And if you think that's bad, understand that people do this stuff with radioactive stuff too. There's a type of ceramic glaze that was very common in midcentury modern stuff that is hot enough to make a geiger counter sing four part harmony. People actually ATE radium tablets, this one dude was famous for selling them and he claimed he felt awesome right up to when he suddenly died. They did an autopsy his body was riddled with tumors and holes in his bones the size of silver dollars. He sure did make money selling radium tablets tho. Seems ridiculous to us, but that's the kind of monkeys we are from time to time. The truth is, people are bad at detecting long term risks because by definition their lives hopes and dreams take place during the detection period. Life has a way of distracting one's attention so people tend to after a while just look around, see what other people are doing, and figure it must be ok if they're all doing it. And every once in a while, that'll really bite you in the ass.
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