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Midnaspet
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Feb 19, 2017
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obligatory "no, they are not as good as any fidelios- despite the likeness"
Feb 19, 2017
mattris
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Feb 19, 2017
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The Lasmex L-85 build quality is right up with the Philips Fidelio X1 and X2. And with EQ applied and Brainwavz pads installed, the Lasmex sound better*, are more comfortable, and less expensive - even with the pad exchange.
*smoother sounding - yet more impactful; without the fake-sounding, ultra-wide sound-stage of the Fidelios
Feb 19, 2017
Midnaspet
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Feb 19, 2017
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or, you know, you could just buy headphones that sound nice and are comfortable without having to fuck with them. to quote your review: " Without EQ, I find them to be unlistenable " theres no way im going to buy sheepskin pads for- let alone purchase at all, a pair of headphones that need eq to not be "unlistenable".
Feb 19, 2017
mattris
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Feb 19, 2017
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I'm curious to know which headphones you choose. Compared to my EQ'd, pad-exchanged L-85s, I'm guessing most of the following will apply with your headphones of choice:
- They will cost more. - They won't sound as good... with gaming, movies, and all genres of music. - They won't be as comfortable. - They won't be as well-built. - They won't be as versatile (replaceable cable, microphone attachments, flexible earcups).
And as far as equalization goes, I EQ all of my headphones. So the fact that I have to EQ the L-85s is not an issue for me. Their frequency configuration is saved and can be loaded with the touch of a button. iOS users, the Pop preset works just fine.
And while not required, Brainwavz pads significantly improve comfort... and can easily be removed if I decide to use the pads on another headphone.
Yes, these Lasmex headphones take some initial effort (and investment) to sound (and feel) their best. But for people looking for a versatile at-home headphone, they are worth it IMO.
Feb 19, 2017
Midnaspet
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Feb 19, 2017
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I think it comes down to the fact that you and I are very different when it comes to how we use and what we like in headphones.
I run with the qc35, ie80, fidelio x1. I have not had to EQ or buy sheepskin pads for any of these- they are all at-least as well built (though I would put money on all of them being better built), at least as versatile, are more comfortable (for the x1 I would say it could be a toss up- but they can not possibly be more comfortable than the qc35. sheep skin pads on your ears arent going to fix the headpad being worse, or the rest of the design that contributes to comfort), and all sound to my liking. I am not, nor will ever be in the market for 80$ headphones, so while they are more expensive- I dont care.
I'll also remind you that something not sounding as good is subjective- Also that EQing a mediocre pair of headphones to hell doesnt make them not a mediocre pair of headphones. it also doesnt give them suddenly good bass performance, which is lacking- you cant fix physics with an EQ.
Feb 19, 2017
mattris
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Feb 20, 2017
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You run with the Bose QC35 and Philips Fidelio X1? I can't picture that working well at all. Like most people, I prefer to use around-the-ear or open-back headphones at home - at my desk or walking around.
Yes, the QC35 and X1 are well-built headphones... but cost $250 and $350, respectively. At $80, I would bet that the Lasmex L-85 is among the best-built, lower-cost, currently-being-sold headphones in the world.
Yes, the light-weight QC35 is more comfortable than the X1 or Lasmex w/ stock earpads. But I perceive no issues with the Lasmex headpad. Unlike the the X1, the Lasmex doesn't have elastic that can stretch-out (and eventually snap) over time due to normal usage.
Why is the L-85's price a mark against them? Lasmex is not a well-known brand, so they were wise to charge less than a similar-class, name-brand headphone. If their stock V-shaped sound was replaced with my customized EQ profile, I believe that Lasmex could justifiably charge $300 or more. I find it curious that a headphone as good-looking and well-made as this can have such a unappealing, unnatural frequency response.
True, "good" sound is subjective, but replicating real sound (with quality microphones, headphones, speakers, amplifiers, cables, etc.) should be the goal - at least for audiophiles. Simple graphic EQ makes these headphones sound "good" to me.
In headphones, I look for sound realism and value (price-to-performance ratio). The QC35 and X1 are excellent headphones for their intended purposes, but neither come close to sounding real. EQ could possibly help them. But I doubt it, considering that the QC35 has a closed-back design and is made for wireless/noise-cancelling. And the X1 has a gimmicky, ultra-wide sound-stage and grainy sound.
Yes, the Lasmex L-85 is a "mediocre" pair of headphones. But EQ-ing them "to hell" (with free software) transforms them into excellent headphones for home use. And I don't feel that their bass performance is lacking at all.
One final thing to consider is the DAC/amp being used. I'm current using the relatively low-end Micca Origen+. Once I upgrade, I'll report any improvements I hear with my L-85's.
Feb 20, 2017
Midnaspet
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Feb 20, 2017
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I had all this stuff typed out but the truth is I dont really care that much. And I really dont give a shit about how they sound on a different dac so dont bother 'reporting any improvements'. (
just so you can get your facts straight: https://youtu.be/n154VkvXvQ4?t=1m42s yeah, totally not durable.)
Feb 20, 2017
mattris
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Feb 20, 2017
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If you "don't really care that much", then why even start trying to debate/convince me? I've explained how to transform these Lasmex headphones in giant killers. If you choose to purchase another headphone (or use the ones you currently own), I wish you all the best.
Owners - or prospective owners - of the L-85 may appreciate my reports, so I'll continue to post them - despite your objections.
Feb 20, 2017
dimetime
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Mar 3, 2017
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What's going on? I just joined this forum. I was looking for reviews on the LASMEX L-85 HEADPHONES when I came across this site. I've ordered the LASMEX L-85s after reading reviews on Amazon about them. There were only four reviews from the four people that purchased them and they all loved them and gave them five stars each. Based upon those reviews and the specs and description I ordered them. I'm glad I read your review because I would rather speak with someone that owned these to find out how good these are and if there was anything extra that I might need to know about these that would improve them and if there was anything to not do. I'm fairly new to using headphones but I'm a vet when it comes to sound, volume and style. I've been playing drums for 34 years and I play guitar as well. So, I love listening to music from all genres. My first pair of expensive headphones were the SKULLCANDY CRUSHERS and I really love them! I've had them for over a year now and they still rock. So, about the L-85s, I saw you mention that you EQ your L-85s. What do you mean by that and how did you EQ them? If there's a way to improve anything that has to do with sound, I want to know. I would love to hear more about the L-85s. I'm looking forward to hearing back from you.
Mar 3, 2017
mattris
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Mar 23, 2017
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Hello, and welcome to Massdrop! The Lasmex L-85 is a superbly-built, value-conscious headphone. See my updated post below for details on EQ-ing them.
Mar 23, 2017
dimetime
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Apr 3, 2017
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Hey mattris, this is dimetime. I got the LASMEX L-85s yesterday and I was going to EQ them using the updated post you told me to check out and I can't seem to find that particular post. I'm new to this site and I'm not sure if I'm overlooking it. Is there any way you could repost your EQ instructions somewhere I can easily find them? Or send them to me somehow? According to your posts about the L-85s, I prefer to use your EQ method. Thank you
Apr 3, 2017
jdeoxys
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Sep 12, 2017
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I wouldn't use fidelios without EQ either - and even after, the bass distortion makes it a pretty bad headphone. I'd rather use one of these Equalized than an expensive yet inherently bad headphone like the Fidelios.
Sep 12, 2017
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