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ZeypherUndellus
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Nov 4, 2016
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Just got mine today. Very quick first impressions are I wish the he-350 was this decent out of the box but I'm not letting go of the dt 990 so soon. Build quality is exceptional for China and they fit my very large head nicely. Sproingy as hell, non-proprietary cable (standard 3.5mm jack) so you can easily replace the stock cables. I just might pick these over the shp9500 if the 9500 weren't so damn comfortable.
ZeypherUndellus
22
Nov 15, 2016
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I'm working my way towards that comparison. I haven't heard the 9500 in awhile. I did compare them to the dt 990 and I was pleased with the performance. One thing I couldn't tell at first was the bass was surprising. I was expecting lackluster bass. Rather, these are fairly bassy, which I don't think the 9500 have
Exh1l3d_0n3
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Nov 15, 2016
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The 9500 going through a Vali 2 with some bass heavy tracks... WOW! They produce much more bass than people give it credit for.
ZeypherUndellus
22
Nov 15, 2016
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I was commenting on the fact that I was surprised the bass on the Lasmex was so pronounced on non base heavy tracks, or at least the sub bass. I do like the effect tubes have on this set of cans; the highs are no longer painfully piercing and back down to a much more tolerable level. The midrange rises significantly. The bass doesn't seem affected to me.
ZeypherUndellus
22
Nov 16, 2016
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I got some time in with the SHP 9500.
From my perspective I prefer the signature of the Lasmex. The highs seem to be the same, but the bass is elevated on the Lasmex. Comfort is a different story, as the 9500 have this feeling of being extremely light, but to me they don't fit well. The Lasmex are a degree heavier, but they seem to fit better. Clarity of the sound seems to be roughly the same in all regions. There is a significant difference in build, mainly in that the Lasmex headband has more metal, but that doesn't necessarily they're better built (there's something that rattles in my right earcup). Soundstage is decent with great imaging.
I haven't warmed up my tubes, but there does seem to be more bass on first listen. There is a significant midrange boost with the tubes on the Lasmex that I don't get with the SHP 9500. I'm relatively new on the tubes, but I think there was a slight increase in soundstage. Imaging stayed the same.
Overall, I'm pleased. My conclusion is that the comparison is a toss up. Is one better than the other? If you like the extra bass then the Lasmex is better, but the lightness and feather touch of the 9500 have me coming back to them. I have other headphones than these two: AD900x, T20RP, HiFi Man 350. The 9500 definitely compare the closest to the Lasmex.
Note: I sprung on this pair of headphones because I wanted something different than what others have. So I'm specifically looking for what is different.
From my perspective I prefer the signature of the Lasmex. The highs seem to be the same, but the bass is elevated on the Lasmex. Comfort is a different story, as the 9500 have this feeling of being extremely light, but to me they don't fit well. The Lasmex are a degree heavier, but they seem to fit better. Clarity of the sound seems to be roughly the same in all regions. There is a significant difference in build, mainly in that the Lasmex headband has more metal, but that doesn't necessarily they're better built (there's something that rattles in my right earcup). Soundstage is decent with great imaging.
I haven't warmed up my tubes, but there does seem to be more bass on first listen. There is a significant midrange boost with the tubes on the Lasmex that I don't get with the SHP 9500. I'm relatively new on the tubes, but I think there was a slight increase in soundstage. Imaging stayed the same.
Overall, I'm pleased. My conclusion is that the comparison is a toss up. Is one better than the other? If you like the extra bass then the Lasmex is better, but the lightness and feather touch of the 9500 have me coming back to them. I have other headphones than these two: AD900x, T20RP, HiFi Man 350. The 9500 definitely compare the closest to the Lasmex.
Note: I sprung on this pair of headphones because I wanted something different than what others have. So I'm specifically looking for what is different.
Bruno3833
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Nov 17, 2016
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How would you compare them against HE 350? You said 350s werent decent out of the box. What tweaks did do on them?
ZeypherUndellus
22
Nov 17, 2016
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Well, my experience with the HE-350 since they've arrived was extremely unpleasant. I was part of those first backers back in March and waited... and waited... and waited... I even watched Zeos review them so I could try to formulate a hypothesis as to what they sounded like.
And after they arrived and I had them on my head, I started to experience tremendous pain on my upper head. The pads were so tough and the clamping force so mighty that I couldn't bear even to have them on my head. It was so bad I couldn't listen to them how HiFiman wanted them to sound like!
So I decided to break the leather headband strap (on the ends so I can put it back later) in order to bend back the top metal headband to get rid of the clamping force. On the HE-350 thread, people told me to "use the dt 770, 880, 990 pads. They work great!". And I'm sure they would, except that I LOVE my dt 990s; they are my favorite pair of headphones and I didn't want to have to buy another set of those pads nor peel off the ones I have in order to give this nightmare more air.
Luckily, Dekoni made and dropped a set of the Fostex x Massdrop pads in sheepskin leather and I had them. Perfect fit on the Hifiman ring for the headphones. Then I attached them, and they felt comfortable. No more pain.
After listening to them that way, there was a lot more bass with what I considered cheapo desktop dell speaker treble. It just seemed muddied and out there and then I realized I basically cut off half of the driver with the new pads. Every violin I heard was just awful. (tbh what I did hear before the pad swap made the violins sound awful). I guess they're ok now, but they aren't my first, second, nor third choice for listening to music. That and the cable is just too short for my desktop uses and I haven't been bothered to find a longer one. Once the Fostex x Massdrop Ebony TX-00 get in, these pads will move over there and then I might change them again with others.
So by comparison, when all I had to do was open box, put on headphones and feel the second most comfortable pair of headphones that I have, and then just listen without complaints, the Lasmex win everyday of the week plus Sundays.
Sound wise, I still like the signature of the 350s, but I think the Lasmex has better overall tone quality. Lasmex puts out nice violins, whereas I think the 350s have the worst sounding violins of all my headphones (lindsey sterling violins across 10 pairs of headphones). Lasmex has more space in the soundstage than the 350 from what I've heard and my perception of soundstage. Lastly, imagining is about the same. If it weren't for those problems when I opened the box for the first time, I may think that they are closer than I've put them here. However, I 98/100 I would take the Lasmex stock over the Hifiman modified. YMMV
Note: I do have a huge head, and I was actually buying the 350s so I could try out their fit and finish before going after their higher end planar models. Also, my pair still has a problem with the connection with the right ear dropping out occasionally. I would send them back, but I like to tinker with them now.
And after they arrived and I had them on my head, I started to experience tremendous pain on my upper head. The pads were so tough and the clamping force so mighty that I couldn't bear even to have them on my head. It was so bad I couldn't listen to them how HiFiman wanted them to sound like!
So I decided to break the leather headband strap (on the ends so I can put it back later) in order to bend back the top metal headband to get rid of the clamping force. On the HE-350 thread, people told me to "use the dt 770, 880, 990 pads. They work great!". And I'm sure they would, except that I LOVE my dt 990s; they are my favorite pair of headphones and I didn't want to have to buy another set of those pads nor peel off the ones I have in order to give this nightmare more air.
Luckily, Dekoni made and dropped a set of the Fostex x Massdrop pads in sheepskin leather and I had them. Perfect fit on the Hifiman ring for the headphones. Then I attached them, and they felt comfortable. No more pain.
After listening to them that way, there was a lot more bass with what I considered cheapo desktop dell speaker treble. It just seemed muddied and out there and then I realized I basically cut off half of the driver with the new pads. Every violin I heard was just awful. (tbh what I did hear before the pad swap made the violins sound awful). I guess they're ok now, but they aren't my first, second, nor third choice for listening to music. That and the cable is just too short for my desktop uses and I haven't been bothered to find a longer one. Once the Fostex x Massdrop Ebony TX-00 get in, these pads will move over there and then I might change them again with others.
So by comparison, when all I had to do was open box, put on headphones and feel the second most comfortable pair of headphones that I have, and then just listen without complaints, the Lasmex win everyday of the week plus Sundays.
Sound wise, I still like the signature of the 350s, but I think the Lasmex has better overall tone quality. Lasmex puts out nice violins, whereas I think the 350s have the worst sounding violins of all my headphones (lindsey sterling violins across 10 pairs of headphones). Lasmex has more space in the soundstage than the 350 from what I've heard and my perception of soundstage. Lastly, imagining is about the same. If it weren't for those problems when I opened the box for the first time, I may think that they are closer than I've put them here. However, I 98/100 I would take the Lasmex stock over the Hifiman modified. YMMV
Note: I do have a huge head, and I was actually buying the 350s so I could try out their fit and finish before going after their higher end planar models. Also, my pair still has a problem with the connection with the right ear dropping out occasionally. I would send them back, but I like to tinker with them now.
Bruno3833
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Nov 17, 2016
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I moded mine 350s with these 2 mods.
First is put peace of towel paper between drivers and headphone cushions. This should reduce that problematic edgy treble.
Second is remove stickers from behind of drivers. For that you need to open them but, its really easy to do. It will give more bass and make sound warmer. But it seems to me that sound is no longer that precise. More about this here: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-hifiman-he-350/talk/530648
ZeypherUndellus
22
Nov 17, 2016
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I don't care. After the fitting and connection issues, the HE-350s are dead to me. I did the paper towel technique. I had to open up the drivers in order to see what was wrong with my connections for my cables. They sound ok from my standpoint, and I guess that's why I like the Lasmex better because they are, to me, just better. Better fitting. More comfortable. They sound good for $74. I've spent the entire day listening to my modded 350s, and I'm starting to wish that I had the Lasmex again because I prefer their signature over the 350s.
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