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Dave_jeff
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May 24, 2020
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Not gonna sell unless a much better price. They need to price aggressively to get more of a following in the wider non audiophile community and grow from there...silly price
May 24, 2020
jaydunndiddit
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May 24, 2020
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Dave_jeffBetter price compared to what? You said the exact same thing when it came to the Aether-R drop. Considering what Noble and 64 Audio charge, this isn't nearly as expensive while delivering good SQ, good looks, and build quality.
May 24, 2020
Dave_jeff
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May 25, 2020
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jaydunndidditYes and they sold like 4 and will once again sell barely any. You can argue all you want but proof is in the purchases sir.
May 25, 2020
bloodpig
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May 26, 2020
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Dave_jeffppl on budget have to look around twice before reading biased reviews esp at that price, and esp when chify is a think now and a gr8t perfonmance can be achieved on lower prices. There is something fishy when someone defending 800 /discounted from 1k usd or 1.3k USD if you buy outside USA/ and he tends to take the generosity of drop sending to him free items for "fair" review with the promise to keep the items for themselves. Just be aware, thats what im saying.
May 26, 2020
jaydunndiddit
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May 26, 2020
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bloodpigOr we just get sick of people bitching about the cost of a product they haven't heard or owned and have no experience with or know the tech that is inside of these or the R&D and tuning that was involved. They're a small company that only has four products, that they custom build for the user. Let alone, the tech that goes inside of them. It's not some off-the-wall, un-researched bastardization of parts like almost all ChiFi that they can mass produce and crap out with terrible QC that isn't even tuned properly or have twrrible channel matching. Let alone their non-existent warranty as the products are made to be disposable or pay crazy fees in shipping it back to China. As they say, you get what you pay for.
May 26, 2020
VirusKing
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May 26, 2020
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Dave_jeffThat exactly what many people think! I understanding driver counts may not correlate to sound quality, but at 800 USD, it dose have many better options E.g. Empire ear x drop Zeus: USD 750 for 14 drivers Nobel Kaiser x drop : USD 700 for 10 drivers UE 7pro CIEM:USD 899 for 4 drivers As such, I could not see there is any strong reason for people to stick with LEMX even it's quality is high.
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May 26, 2020
jaydunndiddit
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May 26, 2020
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VirusKingAnd of those, which do you own or have heard? The UE7 Pro also uses 3 drivers, not 4. And you were correct with your initial statement, driver count doesn't mean shit. It's all about the tuning. The housing, sound tubes, types of drivers, crossovers, switches, etc. all contribute to the overall sound much more than the count of drivers. But, I'm sure you already know that 🙃 Seems like you're just biased against products you have zero experience with.
May 26, 2020
Dave_jeff
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May 27, 2020
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jaydunndidditIt's selling well isn't it... I was wrong it is well priced for this platform. It doesn't matter what you think - clearly the price point isn't right for the ignorant audience and maybe they need to price to gain traction.
May 27, 2020
jaydunndiddit
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May 27, 2020
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Dave_jeffWhat a dumb, snarky comment. The price doesn't matter, your ilk would still bitch about it being "too expensive" with no intention of buying it anyhow. You can look at every "expensive" product here at Drop and there is always a gaggle of you people complaining to lower the price to some random, arbitrary amount to fit your small budget. You people always seemingly want steak on a hamburger budget. If you can't afford something, that's fine. But knocking a product that you haven't heard and proclaiming it's too expensive is very small of you. The unit actually sounds pretty damn good, measures well, and is handcrafted beautifully with a lot of good tech on the inside. Crinacle ranks it well, and it's highly reviewed amongst reviewers in the industry and other forums, because it is quite good even at its higher, standard price point. For those that have the funds, this is actually a good deal compared to many competitors in this space. Why you have such a hard on for bashing something you've never heard is beyond me.
May 27, 2020
Dave_jeff
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May 29, 2020
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jaydunndidditYou don't know anything about people on this, assuming people knock the price because they can't afford it is pretty rude. I actually participated in the noble x 10 custom with was x2 more expensive than this. I don't think this is priced properly and clearly everyone agrees which is why it isn't selling. No point attacking people personally I was stating a fact.
May 29, 2020
Itsdoggy
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May 29, 2020
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jaydunndidditso your only argument defending these earbuds is that people are only assuming they arent worth it? bro wtf how does that make sense, what does buying it have to do with people thinking its overpriced? i dont care what you think you know those earbuds can be lost so easily and you're trying to defend them because we are too smart to buy them at a crazy price and possibly end up losing them? if thats not a bot i dont know what is
May 29, 2020
jaydunndiddit
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May 29, 2020
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Dave_jeffRude? You straight up called everyone ignorant who didn't share your views on the pricing. In Lime Ears previous drop, you did the same thing griping about the cost of a product you have zero experience with, claiming they should take a financial loss:
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Again, you can look at the various threads here and see people doing nothing constructive and bitching about sales pricing. They're doing the same thing in the Ether CX, Noble K10, Koss 95X, etc. drops. Somehow, a business needs to sell all their products at a loss or minimal margins to appease folks like you. I'd understand if you ever owned or even listened to these, but you haven't. Myself and various others, professional reviewers, and amateur reviewers, have listened to them and enjoyed them even at MSRP. Just because you don't see their value, doesn't mean it doesn't exist when they're offering any sort of discount. And just like you, I'm sharing my opinion. However, I'm not stating my subjective opinion as fact like an entitled child as you are.
May 29, 2020
Dave_jeff
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May 29, 2020
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jaydunndidditYou basically said if people disagree they can't afford it so their view doesn't count. You are missing what I am saying in both posts. I have no idea if lime ea are worth it, maybe they are. Neither do the people who are NOT buying it. It could be worth the money. But for the uneducated on this platform they will need to build brand by sacrificing margins to get momentum and lots of reviews. At this price people will not buy.
May 29, 2020
jaydunndiddit
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May 29, 2020
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Dave_jeffI said the folks in your camp will bitch about the price of a product they have no experience with, haven't heard, and know nothing about. They see the sticker price and immediately start complaining. Which, is exactly what you've been doing not once, but twice for the same manufacturer. I also noted that there are plenty examples of this on other products currently on Drop of people doing EXACTLY this. It's hard to make this shit up when you can go to any page for these products and see it with your own eyes. The 6XX and 58X threads were an absolute shitshow over a matter of $10-20. Same with any "ChiFi" IEM on Drop as people always bitch and say order from whatever Chinese e-commerce site instead to save ~$5. The Topping products see this all the time too and immediately get cross compared to Amazon/Apos. My issue is, why should a manufacturer have to take a financial loss to suit anyone? They're a business and they deserve to be properly compensated for their work and product. Let alone, Lime Ears is based in Poland and a very small operation (a couple of guys at minimum; a very small company) so why should they take a hit when financially, it wouldn't make sense? You yourself purchased an overpriced CIEM from Noble when the K10 is quite old at this point and has sold, new, for as low as $500 on Drop, albeit in universal form. That already tells about its inherit value, yet, this drop is too expensive that has more technology and engineering packed inside? That's the string of logic I don't quite get. Noble literally sold an overpriced product purely on brand name recognition and people fall for that all day and night. And I still own some Noble products but why I no longer own their "TOTL" models. They're pretty, just egregiously overpriced for their FR and technicalities (IMO). Also their customer service and warranty leave a lot to be desired. Be lucky that you never have an issue. They were a nightmare to deal with. I was probably being a dick prior, so I apologise for that, but considering how bad the budget minded folks complain, it just gets tiring when they have nothing of value to add more than, "I subjectively think this product I know nothing about and haven't heard is too expensive." How is that helpful to actual potential buyers if you haven't even heard the item being offered?
May 29, 2020
Dave_jeff
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May 29, 2020
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jaydunndidditI purchased the K10 customs 3 years ago or so (I will never ever buy a noble product again they have the worst customer service in the world - i had to pay to ship it back a 2nd time for repair after their first repair didnt work). I also understand you can find bargain and not pay for brand, I bought the custom A6 like 9 years ago when 1964 was an unknown brand and it was their flagship. I'm just making the point that if they want to be successful on this platform they need to prie more aggressively to build reputation. I think lots of companies have to take losses or lower margins to scale and get brand recognition - customer acquisition in a competitive market with it being hard to differentiate can be costly, and they aren't selling.
May 29, 2020
rslatara
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Sep 6, 2020
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jaydunndidditCrin gave these an an A and a good all rounder so on that it's probably worth the money but there are many that won't buy it due to competition. The best thing for Lime would be to send review units out or make a cheaper item to build a fan base. I know driver amount, type is not everything but to would be buyers there are more appealing options for less money. For instance I'm not venturing into that price bracket but I didn't even know Lime Ears was a company. On the other side of the coin I know thieaudio and have had the Legacy 3, 9 and probably the clairvoyance will be next. So a started low and worked my way up.
Sep 6, 2020
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