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Featuring high-quality four-core OCC pure silver-plated wire, these braided cables from Lin Soul are a great upgrade for your stock IEM cables. The 0.78-millimeter two-pin cable is compatible with Kinera H3, Shozi Hibiki, TFZ, and others Read More
OK okay... for all you with questions, I already have a similar cable...
Let’s just say, I have an mmcx fetish ever-since I modded my EMU Ebony’s.
First things first: this is actually selling on AliExpress, by more than one vendor. That’s where I ordered it. Now most of these cables look pretty similar, and I probably have the exact SAME one, albeit a different color. My cable’s the silver 8-core one. For me, AE is usually reliable. I can say that confidently after over a 100 orders. And this kind of stuff is solid, so don't worry about Chinese vendors and manufacturers.
Now as far as the METAL is concerned, mine is OFC copper, SILVER plated. The cable does sound better than all the rest of the cables that I have, so I guess the plating works. The cable makes my cans sound a little LOUDER than the rest, and it’s making sound BRIGHTER. Now I’m not one of those snake oil guys so I’ll just put it like this: this cable’s letting electrons flow better cuz of better materials, hence the improvement in sound. Better conduction= better audio results. Simple.
Now, why do I have a battalion of cables? I was looking for a solid cable. Something SOFT, DURABLE, GOOD LOOKING and well… more BLING. You get all of that in this cable. It’s SOFT… doesn’t memory into any particular curve, it just stays free. And it’s light. Almost too light, but it’s well-made. And I think they’re right with the use of silver-plating too. The sound tells it.
As you can see, I’ve collected a few in my time, and I could even tell you which one’s NOT recommended and which one IS. The paracorded one (my DIY) is a normal single wire silver-coated ($18 AliExpress), which sounds like the grey single wire ones in the picture here ($20 AE).
The silver one, the single one here ($15) is also okay. Again, this sounds quiet-er so again, I guess inadequate conduction in comparison.
The black/grey is BGVP, I got from PenonAudio ($20). This cable is… stubborn. It stays curved and bent most of the times, and it’s too thin. Not recommended. It sounds… not up to par either.
Overall, I think this is a good buy. But here’s the thing: I got mine from AE during 11.11. It was… drumroll please… $12! Plus $7 two-week shipping. So there.
At what price Massdrop sells it, is their prerogative, maybe if it's GOLD plated, that's why the price is higher.
These cables are the usual $20-$40 ball-park. Any one cable can be better sounding or more durable than the other. Coincidentally, this is a good buy – at the right price, that is.
I'm thinking the cable in the drop is not too far from what I have. Probably worth it. It will surely sound better, I'm sure.
Off-topic, but it wasn't his choice. He had to leave his partnership with Wikia and couldn't take the existing forum software. Given the software was entirely proprietary, much of the functionality didn't exist anywhere else.
I just put together a long reply, opened another tab to get a link, returned to here and the whole reply is gone arrgh! Not going to go through that again. Cryo treatment has a lot of fans. Just a few bucks to determine it for yourself. Silver is especially affected. Highs especially are smoothed.
Dueland's tinned wire is a winner in my system. Smoother, more 'organic' (balanced, whole, real) presentation. It replaced the DNM solid core OFC I was using.
Actually, no. Altering impedance is the only way a cable can affect sound quality, since it can alter the impedance seen by the driver, which, in turn, alters the frequency response. However, as long as the impedance seen by the driver(or speaker input, in the case of multi-driver systems) is less than 10%, or 12.5% according to NwAvGuy, of the impedance of the driver (or, again, the thing you are driving to which the cables connect), there will be no audible changes to the frequency response. Even if you violate the 1:10 rule, many headphones have a flat, or flat enough rather, impedance response that the alterations to the FR will be reduced. That is why many studio headphones have a flat impedance response: to avoid being mangled when going into a studio that has not been updated since the 70s and whose headphone amp has an output impedance of 120 Ohms.
The_JniacLOL man I thought you were smart and then you ended up a Church of Digital Infallibility Computer Weenie. Look Silver plated OCC Copper sounds better there is more data(oh this is really gonna burn you up lets just call it quantum data) through the wire and the highs are way more extended. Its not even close OCC Silver plated copper is order of magnitudes better than OFC copper there is just no comparison anyone who cant hear the difference especially with some good 6%+ silver solder on the terminations is a Digital Infallibility Computer Weenie brainwash who is worried that the rest of the Cliff Claven(the character on the show cheers who is a comical example of conjecturing noob with the most supreme level of confidence to the point of hilariousness and lacking any real knowledge....(now your thinking Im describing myself,,, wrong I am pure knowledge and material science and observation and you and Cliff Claven are the anecdotal conjecture)) backseat engineers on the forum are going to flame him into submission. Not gonna work on me cucks(this is not directed at anyone specifically but we know how this debate goes everytime it comes up).... Im mighty mouse the more all u rats turn into the walls of the maze and try to shock me it only adds to my power until I stomp you all into submission.
I am ordering these with balanced 2.5mm termination. Is there a recommendation for a 2.5mm balanced to 3.5mm balanced converter? My iFi xDSD takes 3.5mm balanced plugs. While I am at it, it would also be nice to have 2.5mm balanced to 3.5mm single ended converters as well for my phone...
Thank you in advance.
That's good ,I also believe that there shouldn't be a difference in sound for cables. But when I meant how did it 'sound' I just wanted to know if it work . Cause according to some reviews people are having audio issues .
AzeendeenAh, got it. OK, so I do have some issues... The MMCX (MEE) version seems to have problems with my Shure SE846 - in particular the left MMCX connection to the earbud is loose/intermittent causing the sound to cut out if I move my head even a little bit. If that is the question you are asking then yes, I do have some problems. But when these cords/connectors work, they sound great. But I just think that there is something off in these...
It is impossible to imagine how the length of a cable is NOT one of the first specs! FFS! List length of the cable. How hard is that? Offering one that is longer than 1.2m meters would be seriously appreciated.
I know what OCC means, I can give you the complete biography on professor Ohno the inventor of OCC.
To produce OCC wire, which is most cases will also be UP copper, you need:
A factory that is capable of producing the wire in that method, which is rather complicated and involves very expensive machinery in order to mass-produce it.
It needs to be certified and authorized by the patent holder.
There's maybe 2-3 factories worldwide who has the certification and the ability of mass producing OCC wires, I know that Wan Lung are supplying most OCC on the market to most high-end cable makers, there's also Neotech who has great UPOCC copper and UPOCC silver, and maybe Cardas has it as well I'm not really sure but he's got great UP copper wires nonetheless.
You can contact them and ask what would be the price for a 100m spool.
As far as I know it's somewhere between 600~1300 bucks depends on the wire material.
And don't forget that it's a single core, so for a 1 meter cable you need 4 meter of wire at least for a balanced 4 core wire. so from a 100m spool in practice you only have 25m cable.
Now add the connectors, braiding work, labor, and you can understand why these real UPOCC wires cost hundreds of dollar as a finished product. 95% of these so called "OCC" cables on AE, eBay, and apparently here too are FAKE.
That's why I ALWAYS recommend to check what is under the hood, and by that I mean to know who's the wire's actual producer.
I don’t know why Chinese made cables especially ones on Ali Express and now this one, for some reason don’t find it important to say how long they are. I mean, that is kind of an important detail.
Question, does this drop have the moldable plastic ear hooks? A comment under the reviews section suggests that the previous drop did not. I prefer cables with ear hooks/guides to help stabilize the fit.
KevlarBondYears since I purchased and these still are go-to solution for Shure 846. Not sure why, not sure I care but the audio quality is exponentially more consistent than the SHURE cables. Daily use...no complaints.
Here's their product website and page: https://www.linsoul.com/product-page/Linsoul-7NOCC-Cable. It doesn't seem like a pure silver core but rather silver-plated. Maybe they confused what OCC and OFC mean? OCC = ohno continuous cast, and OFC = oxygen-free copper. OCC is a method for drawing metals (commonly used with high quality copper) while OFC is a type of copper specifically. I bet they thought one of the C's in OCC stood for copper.
rofflemywaffleYes it is extremely shady that they say its 7n OCC Silver Plated its definitely not typed Silver, Gold Plated which would make everything extremely clear and is intentionally misleading. So if its just silver plated copper which would be more in line with this price(except 50 bucks for silver plated copper in this length is is like way higher than other offerings making it a ripoff) then if its just silver plated thats not gold plating either likely its something else yellow but its not gold. Whats even worse is silver and tin would probably be hard to tell apart if your(protip this is a sign of internet seniority dont correct your superiors it just makes you more inferior) just looking at the cross section of wire strands......... I would want to see the ends dipped in a chemical marker to prove its silver because the way its cut can give a better finish and appear shinier.