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1. Voshkod 6ZH1P-EV(amazing treble)
2. Mullard M8161(if you can find any)
3. Mullard M8100(love the bass)
4. GE JAN5654W(amazing for the price) (like $7 for 5 tubes on ebay)
5. Tung-Sol 6AK5
6. Sylvania Gold Brand 5654
7. United Electron EF92(good luck finding them)
8. GE 5-Star 5654
9.RCA 5654 (Black Plate)
10. Mullard M8083
Honorable mentions: Sylvania 5654 & Mullard CV131/6CQ6
What about the ones that they can ship from massdrop?
Also what do the different tubes do for your amp?
For me, I'd just buy the default tubes, and then just buy some better tubes on ebay. You could probably find 2 different sets of the tubes I listed for the price of the tubes they offer. The tubes just change the sound up a bit. You can choose how you want your music to sound. Some add more bass, some make vocals sound better, etc.
Have you used the defaults on these? I was planning on getting a hd 600 and these with maybe a modi 2 do you think thats a good idea? i have heard that the hd 600's sounded neutral and that the little dot 1 were kind of darkish so it would add a little bit of flavor
The stock tubes are "okay". They aren't that great, but you will hear a subtle difference. I'd highly recommend upgrading tubes. That's an excellent idea. I own the Modi 2 Uber, and the audio is amazing! The 600s are AMAZING with tubes!
Do you think the GE JAN5654W would be a good replacement? you said they were cheap and great for their price
Those are some of the best tubes for the LittleDot! I'd highly recommend them!
alright sounds good! also if you could, could you also point out the difference between the modi 2 uber and the non uber version?
Mainly just what is on the back. There are a couple extra features, but that's about it. They sound somewhat the same. The Uber might sound better, but that's if you can actually hear it.
alright sounds good! thanks for the help!
No problem! Glad to help!
I own a pair of HD600's, what tubes would add the most soundstage and bass? Thanks man!
The Voshkod 6zh1p-ev, Mullard M8161, or Mullard M8100. The M8100 has probably the best bass, but the M8161 has the better soundstage of the three. The M8161 has so much detail, but the bass isn't as good as the M8100. The Voshkods do a great job at both. The Voshkods also have amazing treble. You really can't go wrong with any of these. They have some tubes that have amazing soundstage, but the bass isn't that great. Any of these I would recommend.
Any insight with this or the Vali 2? Still deciding over my first appropriate tube amp. The Vali 2 has one changeable tube slot while this has two.
I'd honestly choose this. The Vali 2 is way too overpriced. This honestly has that actual "tube" sound. The Vali 2 is just a Magni 2 with a cool looking tube.
Is the Vali 2 really overpriced? they both carry $169 msrp on their tags though the Little Dot is $2 cheaper.
Thanks for the input. I can also visually see it looks no difference to the Magni 2 ignoring the tube.
Yeah, it's overpriced. No problem. That's literally the only difference between the two.
I've ordered the amp with the WE 408s. It's it worth the $28 or just going stock and upgrading? I live in Canada and shipping can be costly
I'd honestly buy the stock tubes and then upgrade. A lot of tubes are outside of the U.S. too, but shipping wasn't that expensive.
Thanks I'm getting the impression that's what others have done. Do you need to change the jumpers with others and if so is it difficult?
You won't need to for a lot of the best ones
Last question, honestly, which would they be,? I've got hf 6xx
Which what would they be?
Sorry texting on a bus. Which tubes would be a good option for someone that doesn't want to mess with jumpers?
Well numbers one, three, and four are the ones I would recommend.
Excellent. I've changed my order to the base amp. I'll make sure it's in good order and then try some of the tubes you recommend. Money saved and better result. Thanks for your time and recommendations.
No problem! You won't regret it!
Since i live in Canada, it he shipping for the GE JAN5654 is around 15 dollars and the tubes themselves cost about 5 while i can get the Voshkod 6ZH1P-EV for 20$ free shipping. Do you think it is better to get the Voshkods for gaming mostly?
Thanks again. I'll let you know how things work out. Now I just have to be patient for a month, not easy.
Curious to know where you can order them from?
On Ebay :) theyre about 20 ish dollars cad there and some offer free shipping
Oh. That's great. I'm on the current drop and expect my amp in March. Once I'm sure it's in good working order I'll order the Voshkod 6ZH1P-EV .
The Voshkods are amazing! They're the tubes I would recommend to everyone!
It's gonna work fine. Order the tubes right now lol
No changes to the jumpers?
Your a good salesman. Done. Went with a higher price, but the company had more sales and a longer return policy. Thanks again. I'll let you know how things work out. If its anything like the long wait for the hd 6xx it won't be easy. That said I was lucky to get on the drop and they sound great with my dragonfly black.
Haha not trying to be a salesman. I'm just trying to help people make the right decisions. No problem! The dragonfly black sounds outstanding!
I use the dfb on the go and at home. It will make a nice DAC for the littledot. Cheers
Do you think the Modi will be a good dac?
By all accounts it should. I have a Cambridge audio DAC magic on my main system and a dragonfly black for everything else. Zeos liked the modi
OK one more question. Do you think I need to set the internal gain switches to high, or leave them on low?
What headphones do you have?
sennheizer hd 650s, I got on the massdrop/sennheizer hd6xx colaboration.
Low gain should be fine. My K712 Pros are REALLY loud at like 12 o'clock. Your headphones are most likely harder to drive than mine, but this thing is powerful on low gain. I would just test it because I don't have a pair of Sennheisers to test it with right now.
Thanks. My I don't have to turn the volume up on my dragonfly much more with my HD 650s vs my sennheizer amperiors. I'll find out. The owner's manual is scant.
You should just be able to plug it in and it'll power them easily. This little amp is POWERFUL.
Excellent. I wonder if all of us self declared audiophiles are online all the time? I was listening to some Nick Drake earlier this evening. Incredible musician, too bad his life was cut short.
i want to use the Voshkod 6ZH1P-EV tubes but the little dot 1+ instruction manual doesn't say how to install those tubes
The Voshkods are in the same family as the stock tubes. Just take out the stock tubes and pop the Voshkods in. Line up the pins with holes and there you go.
Of course the Modi will be a good DAC. Sorry I didn't see your reply.
Hey i recieved my little dot amp however, Theres an immense amount of static on them at the moment. I have changed the adapter and the cable so i believe it could be a tube problem? If you would be so kind to help me :)
What is your LittleDot hooked up to?
Did you order it with the stock tubes? Mine was like that at first too.
Yes stock tubes. However, I have seen that if i plug my rca cable to my phone then the static is almost completely gone. I had it hooked up to my computer when the static appeared
It sounds like it's your computer then?
I guess so. However, when i connect my headphones straight to my computer theres absolutely no static at all
Man that's weird? What is your music player?
What do you mean music player? I mainly use it for games or spotify if that is what you mean
Is it when you listen to music and play games?
It is the moment i plug it into my computer
What is your bit rate and sample rate on?
Hey Sam, i got my amp a few days ago. Perfect working order. Russian tubes are amazing. I now get the tube sound. Warm, detailed, and when recorded week better ambiance. Plenty of power for my HD 6xxs. Using my dragonfly black as my DAC.
Man I bet that combination sounds amazing! The LittleDot is the best tube amp on a budget, or it's the best for anyone wanting to get into tubes. What music player do you use?
I'm using foobar on my PC and USB audio player pro on my Android phone. The phone player has a bit perfect setting that makes a noticeable improvement. I'm listening to Nils frahm and Olafur Arnalds. Minimalist keyboards. Studio quality download. Money well spent.
Awesome man! Glad you like it!
Thanks for your tube recommendations. My biggest concern was the QC on the amp. I think a lot of the issues are around cables and interference. No such issues for me. Didn't bother using the supplied cables.
Oh I noticed the soundstage opened up after a few hours
Yeah cables can mess things up. It does open up! It sounds amazing!
Thanks for your encouragement. This was a great buy. Even in Canadian dollars. Keith Jarrett's Koln concert is amazing.
I'm going to have to check that out! No problem man!
Might be picking up interference from your PC or monitor, just move it away and check..
its connected to my pc xD
I found out a lot of people have that static issue. Its probably interference from something. I hope you resolved it!
I have tried many different cables as well as changing the power sources. Does not seem to work properly. I believe this to be my motherboards fault but i am not quite sure. In any case i will be changing my motherboard during the summer anyways so we will have to see xD
what type of cable connects to a pc?
and this drop comes with tubes right?
might be a little late but you're the only person I found in the comments mentioning the K712. How do you like the Dot? Any distortion or anything negative that could be mentioned? Thanks in advance!
I love the little amp! To me it sounds really good! It pairs nicely with the K712s! You may get some crackling, but not all the time.
Hi Sam. I've been enjoying my littledot for some time now. I was thinking of changing the amp chip. Any thoughts on what to try and who to get it from? Oh got some cables for my Sennhiesers from best in the verse. Tidied up the sound and opened up the treble a little. Only issue is one of my cats likes the texture of the cable a little too much.
Haha uh oh! Cats are not good around anything stringy looking. I noticed most people upgrade to the Burson V5i Opamp. That's what most people upgrade to. It's like $50-$60 on eBay.
This cat steals hair bands. With three women in the house there are plenty of them. My braided cable is too much for him.
I'll do some reading on the op amp. Very happy at the moment, but you know.
I've been holding off on the hifiman collaboration. I'd rather focus on improving what I have, than move sideways.
Haha too funny.
For sure check it out.
Improving what you have is the smart thing.
You haven't made the plunge into to opamps?